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[I ditched #BitWarden a while back, migrating everything over to a local solution, I can sync with syncthing.
BUT, it's been kind of startling to see their enshittification accelerating. I remember when they were kind of considered a glowing example of a FLOSS business done right.
EDIT: MAYBE startling isn't the right word. All for-profit FLOSS enshitifies given enough time. #capitalism
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@trashheap 1Password 7 (which I use, subscription-free) feels like it’s on borrowed time at this point, there’s no way I’m entrusting a password vault tied to my Apple Account, and the goal is to self-host VaultWarden but I haven’t been able to figure that out yet.
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@callme_jc I haven't tried it per se. But if I were going to do it, I'd look at something like yunohost which automates self hosting some of the more convoluted apps to self-host. AND I see they do have Vaultwarden available.
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That was unexpected ! Good job @solene ! 
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@ledeuns I had some much backlog related to OpenBSD, and 1/4 of links are dead now and a huge chunk of the rest is almost obsolete ^^' I didn't have much content but at least I can start with a fresh backlog, the daunting backlog is gone now.
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@solene what a fantastic artwork by @prahou https://webzine.puffy.cafe/images/tn_artwork-issue19.png
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@solene
Well.. Because of this webzine I finally got a usb-c docking station working nicely, thanks @joel ! AND I got vaultwarden deployed and working, thank you @stilla ! And because I am using a docking station I fixed some icons and behaviors on my smoking hot fvwm setup thanks to James' lovely documentation found over on ye olde dataswamp!
Not to mention the rather ho-hum easy upgrade to 7.9..
And it ends with @prahou art, a very nice touch to the zine!
Thank you Solène for putting it together, I needed the push!
- [x] upgrade all servers to #openbsd 7.9 ❤️
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@hi Ooo in https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.9/ANNOUNCEMENT it says 19th of May, which is tomorrow for me atm 
We'll soon find out if that's a placeholder or the actual #OpenBSD release date! 
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no, i don't want to use fossil fuel cars or burn firewood instead of harvesting solar.
i just don't want subscriptions, clouds, and apps.
i want standard interfaces, open protocols, open firmware.
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@hi you have the choice. Either a 372MB phone app or a 372MB PWA. What you like best? 😬
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Let's make a Pi Pico 2 powered video card.
This is going to be a long thread that either ends in glorious triumph or hilarious failure.
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The goal of this card will initially be to implement CGA-compatible text mode.
Taking a page from the Seequa Chameleon, it will decode 16K of video memory from B0000-C0000, repeating it four times. This simplifies decoding. We may tighten that up later.
It will have a 4K region at AF000-B0000 where two soft fonts of 2K each can be written.
It will have IO addresses for a mode register, status register, color control register, CRTC registers, and eight palette registers.
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This may seem overly ambitious - but I have an ace up my sleeve.
I have all the decoding PALs from a Seequa Chameleon on sitting on my desk. Including one that just decodes address ranges AF000-B0000, B0000-C0000 and produces an active-low chip select. And including another that decodes all the CGA's IO ranges.
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It's cheating, yes. But it's an amazing shortcut to be able to leverage those. They can be replaced later with GALs or some other kind of modern CPLD.
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A CGA card does not need a crystal - thanks to IBM's penny-pinching design decisions, the entire system crystal was tuned for an NTSC display, driving a master clock of 14.31818MHz.
This clock was delivered to the ISA bus via the OSC pin.
Deep in your modern PC, somewhere in the guts of its highly integrated chipset, there's a clock ticking away at this frequency.
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14.31818MHz is not a transcendental number. It happens to be 315/22.
Thanks to @polpo for pointing out if I'm already overclocking my Pico 2's to 300MHz, I might as well go to 315.
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Despite my fundamental lack of electronics background, I'm probably better equipped to make a bespoke CGA card than most people on the planet. At least that's my internal pep talk.
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- I've written a cycle accurate CGA emulation
- I've made a working simulation of the CGA in a digital logic simulator
- I've reproduced 80% of the original CGA PCB in KiCad (I really need to finish that)
- I've captured digital logic traces from the CGA running demanding demoscene productions
- I am intimately familiar with the ISA bus and bus timings
- I've designed several PCBs in KiCad already and some of them even worked
...so why not?
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This project will live on a breadboard for a while. The first milestone should be emitting some sort of test pattern on a standalone circuit to a real CGA monitor.
To do this we need to control five pins to start - the colors red, green, and blue (we'll ignore intensity, or pin it high), and the two sync signals, horizontal and vertical.
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To simulate the OSC pin, I will program another Pico to just generate a 14.3181818 clock.
"What's my purpose?"
"You generate a clock."
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Internally, the Pico will run MartyPC's CGA emulation, including my implementation of the Motorola 6845.
To cheat a bit, we'll tweak it a bit so it starts up with the register values pre-set for the PC's 80 column text mode, so it won't require programmatic set up.
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This wasn't just a spur of the moment decision. I think ultimately, GlyphBlaster just makes more sense as an ISA card rather than being limited to living in the font ROM socket, and I've always wanted to make my own ISA card.
Designs for ISA cards in KiCad can be found all over the place, but they usually have other people's projects on them.
One thing I worked on previously is making a clean ISA card template in KiCad that you could start a new ISA card project with.
Credit to @tubetime as I basically took his EGA card project and scraped everything off of it, keeping the edge connector, and IO plate engineering drawings.
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A full-length, unpopulated ISA card project in KiCad.
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I own a lot of ISA cards and I took measurements from several video cards, and there's no real standard - things vary a lot. You'll notice on this particular layout, the board edge dips down to give the most usable real estate after the end of the 8-bit ISA edge connector.
Unfortunately this means you can't plug an an original IBM CGA into your AT. We'll probably want to avoid that limitation. With a Pico replacing most of the logic on the board I don't really think we're going to need a full-length card in the first place.
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On GlyphBlaster currently, I fight a lot with bus contention between the two ARM cores. Embassy, the USB-CDC connection and the network stack live on Core 0, whereas GlyphBlaster's video routines run on Core 1, so you might assume they could run independently.
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But they still contend for the same flash - if I add some intensive video effect, I can starve Core 0 and it will stop responding to network requests or my USB debugging session.
The solution is to tag routines on Core 1 with #[unsafe(link_section = ".data.ram_func")] to force it to run out of RAM instead of flash, but this compounds my already dire RAM situation.
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With a full board though, we could have a separate microcontroller that just handles the Wi-Fi. Maybe another RP2350? Maybe an ESP32? STM32 lol? I don't know. Worry about that later.
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We'll definitely be using an RP2350B directly instead of soldering on a Pico 2 board. But I guess it's okay to still call this a Pico.
We basically double the number of available GPIO pins, meaning I no longer have to make compromises. Light pen? Sure. Capture every address line? You betcha. QSPI PSRAM? All day long.
Raspberry Pi is nice enough to provide a reference KiCad project, so you can more or less copy and paste a RP2350 into your project.
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@gloriouscow If you're making a whole ISA card, then you're overlapping with #PicoMEM, #PicoGUS, and #PicoIDE which could be a good place to steal from / ask about!
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@gloriouscow With your graphics card, all that's needed is an Pico 8086 emulator and you've got an "Oops, all Pico!" IBM PC :P
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Okay, first priority - let's make our Pico OSC pin simulator.
Raspberry Pi has a very nice Pico development plugin for Visual Studio Code. We just choose "New Rust Project," name it, and click create.
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a screenshot of the new project wizard in the Pi Pico visual studio code plugin. "Basic settings" prompts for a project name, given as "pico_osc" here, and a location, with buttons to cancel or create.
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This gives you an rp-hal project, and GlyphBlaster is currently written against Embassy, and I don't really feel like rewriting all the overclocking code, so I'm just going to switch this to Embassy too and copy-paste that stuff.
I would like to thank FreddyV of PicoMEM for giving me the tips on how to stably overclock a Pico. It requires tweaking the on-board flash timings in a way I never would have figured out for myself.
The key do doing this in Embassy is this bit:
const PICO_SYS_CLOCK_HZ: u32 = 300_000_000;
const FLASH_QMI_TIMING_UPDATE_THRESHOLD_HZ: u32 = 280_000_000;
const FLASH_QMI_TIMING_HIGH_SPEED_HZ: u32 = 380_000_000;
const OVERCLOCK_FLASH_QMI_CLKDIV: u8 = if PICO_SYS_CLOCK_HZ > FLASH_QMI_TIMING_HIGH_SPEED_HZ {
4
} else {
3
};
const OVERCLOCK_FLASH_QMI_RXDELAY: u8 = if PICO_SYS_CLOCK_HZ > FLASH_QMI_TIMING_HIGH_SPEED_HZ {
4
} else {
3
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let timing = embassy_rp::pac::QMI.mem(0).timing();
timing.modify(|w| {
w.set_clkdiv(OVERCLOCK_FLASH_QMI_CLKDIV);
w.set_rxdelay(OVERCLOCK_FLASH_QMI_RXDELAY);
});
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I'll use GPIO16 for this which conveniently puts it on the top right corner of the Pico 2 board.
Our PIO program is stupid simple:
let clock_program = pio_asm!(
".wrap_target",
"set pins, 1 [10]",
"set pins, 0 [10]",
".wrap"
);
.wrap_target is just a standard label for the PIO loop, which will be restarted at the end with .wrap. The value in brackets is how many cycles to spin - the set itself takes one cycle, then we spin for 10 after. This should give us the 11 cycles on, 11 cycles off behavior we want.
'pins' here just targets GPIO16, via this:
let clock_pin = pio1.common.make_pio_pin(p.PIN_16);
clock_sm_config.set_set_pins(&[&clock_pin]);
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PIO is the secret sauce that makes Picos so good at interfacing with retro hardware. They allow you to react to pin changes instantly, and read and write busses, doing the sort of high speed bus interactions that were normally the exclusive purview of FPGAs.
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All in all, not too shabby for a $5 board. Let's see how our clock looks, right after I unbag this and hook it up.
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14.318MHz, baby.
Believe it or not, a sawtooth clock isn't that hideous. This is pretty much what the OSC pin looks like for realsies.
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A screenshot from a Siglent oscilloscope showing the 14.318MHz clock generated by the Pi Pico 2
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@gloriouscow Could that be a probe issue? Not all probes go up that high in frequency.
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@casandro Nah, I've gotten a clean read from a 66MHz crystal on this probe from a 386 motherboard. This is probably a limitation of the Pico's GPIO drive strength. I'm not sure if that's something you can configure on a Pico, you can on an STM32, although I usually don't as it can produce overshoots which ends up being worse to deal with.
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@casandro The real CGA also cleans up the OSC pin by immediately passing it through an 74LS04 which we will probably also do.
It's actually kind of silly how close we already are to outputting something on a real CGA monitor.
We could drive two additional PIO state machines with divisors to control HSYNC and VSYNC.
Now, if you just output color all the time, you have no idea whether your picture is actually synchronized - the monitor will just keep the beam on all the time, so if you just say, emit magenta forever, you'll just see a solid magenta screen even if the monitor has no vertical hold.
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So we're going to have a color latch like the CGA does.
This is a 74LS174 flip-flop, that is fed our generated colors and is clocked by /OSC.
The CGA doesn't use the 174's clear input, but we can - another GPIO output of the Pico should be able to pull that low to blank the screen, I think. Having a vertical blanking area will let us tell if we have vertical hold.
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a screenshot from the "Digital" digital logic simulator with GloriousCow's CGA simulation loaded. It shows U101, the CGA's color latch.
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I can't overstate how useful it is to have a working digital simulation of the thing you are intending to make.
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Time to start breadboarding!
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You know, I just thought of something - the same technique I use in GlyphBlaster of formatting video frames as 912x262 would work for a static test. Except we expand it to 8 bits. That's 238KB which will still fit in the Pico's RAM.
The lower nibble will drive the RGBI outputs, while two bits in the upper nibble can directly drive HSYNC and VSYNC. We just need to center a 640x200 image in a 912x262 black bitmap, then just paint the sync periods in the overscan.
Screw boring test patterns, lets go directly for graphics!
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we can represent this with a 8-bit palette in Aesprite. We have our normal RGBI palette, then we have hsync (green), vsync (blue) and hsync-in-vsync (cyan).
Now I just need a good picture to use. The easiest thing is to take a 320x200 4bpp image from Tandy or EGA graphics, and horizontally stretch it 2x.
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a screenshot of the palette viewer in Aseprite showing our 16 color + sync signal palette.
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There sure is a lot of 320x200 pornography.
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I'm gonna use the title screen from 1990's VAXINE by The Assembly Line, published by US Gold.
I don't remember anything about this game, but the title graphics are bangin'
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the title graphic from the 1990 video game VAXINE, showing a tilted purple horizon and a weird blue orb tree thing. I don't even know what i'm looking at so its hard to write alt-text for it. There are some planets too.
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this is our final 912x262 video signal bitmap. The graphics don't actually need to be centered, since we're not trying to sync to VSYNC - we're producing VSYNC, so it can happen whenever. In this case its easier to translate CRTC parameters keeping the active display area origin at 0,0.
Now we just need to save it as a raw binary.
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the previous graphic now encoded in a 912x262 bitmap with green and blue stripes indicating horizontal and vertical sync regions
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"RAW binary" isn't one of Aseprite's export options, unfortunately, but we have BMP. The resulting BMP file is 240,022 bytes. That's an additional 1,078 bytes. That just so happens to be:
BMP file header: 14 bytes
DIB header: 40 bytes
palette: 1024 bytes (256 entries × 4 bytes)
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final data offset: 1078 bytes
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one thing i've been struggling with all evening is how to restart the DMA buffer without inducing some sort of sync-killing delay or jitter
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@gloriouscow that was kind of a pain when I was doing a similar thing, are you chaining two dma channels? Iirc that's fast but I couldn't make it wait for the frame buffer to be ready so there was some tearing. I also didn't have a lookup table so that would complicate matters
Here is a writeup (not mine) of some PIO/DMA graphics gymnastics that does involve a lookup table, maybe some of the tricks will be useful: https://dmitry.gr/?r=06.%20Thoughts&proj=09.ComplexPioMachines
Good luck and I look forward to seeing the updates!
We have a picture. It isn't perfect - there's some flickery bits - I don't know if dot crawl is the right word. Not sure what's going on there.
Driving sync signals with a single image buffer was untenable - it's really difficult to have seamless, continuous DMA on the Pico. Every time you restart DMA there's a discontinuity, and if the thing you're DMA'ing represents every single clock cycle in a video field, inserting extra time messes up your picture.
So separate PIO programs generate hsync and vsync, and we restart our now image-only DMA in vsync, just like the OG Glyphblaster does, which we already know works.
I think the crawling may be that the color output is not perfectly aligned with the dot clock.
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I'm starting to think a pico is not the appropriate thing to build a video card with.
all my fun ideas always end up with me concluding i should use an FPGA.
FPGAs are like the crabs of electronics projects. everything wants to turn into an FPGA if you give it enough time.
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@gloriouscow is the pico generating the dot clock? EDIT: the same one generating the pixel data
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@gloriouscow oh there's no clock on the CGA port just HSYNC VSYNC and it's an alignment issue?
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@ldcd correct there's no clock line on the video connector. The monitor has PLLs to synchronize to vertical and horizontal frequencies within a certain range. A CGA monitor expects a 15.7kHZ hsync, for example. The signal, although digital in color, is put through analog circuit and so the monitor does not have to sample colors.
The Pi in the rgb2hdmi is sampling the color at a certain period within a dot window. If I am writing colors out of phase with the sampling then we will have various flickering going on. Why only in those specific areas? I am not really sure.
I do have a de10 nano FPGA board. It's in my MiSTer. Which I never use!
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@gloriouscow A bit more expensive than 2 x $5 though 😅
Right. This isn't completely baffling or anything
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The "Pin selection" interface in Quartus, an IDE for Alterra FPGAs. It's a square with a ton of geometric symbols and I have no idea what i'm looking at. the top says "Top View - Wire Bond , Cyclone V"
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Oh, wait, I remember this level from ZZT.
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I think the elf needs food badly
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okay this isn't that confusing
for example, these are the snake pins. you can choose from left snakes or right snakes
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some pins with ...clock edge symbols? I'm not sure.
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you know, there's a very good reason NOT to use an FPGA
when you actually use the proper tools for a job, it stops becoming a hack.
you're no longer a hacker, you're some kind of engineer or something. ugh.
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Well, I did an FPGA thing. Can check that off the bucket list.
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Okay, lets see if I can get a 14.31818MHz clock out of this thing.
We have a 50MHz clock source, on a pin called FPGA_CLK1_50.
How do we get 14.31818MHz out of that?
By attaching a PLL to it, hopefully.
module de10_clock_test (
input wire FPGA_CLK1_50,
output wire GPIO_1_0
); wire clk_osc;
wire pll_locked;
cga_pll pll_inst (
.refclk (FPGA_CLK1_50),
.rst (1'b0),
.outclk_0 (clk_osc),
.locked (pll_locked)
);
assign GPIO_1_0 = clk_osc;
endmodule
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pll_inst is a PLL instantiation. But notice it says nothing about like dividers or anything. We have to go into something confusingly called the IP (Incendiary Pickle) Catalog to actually configure the PLL.
This is far as a I get because doing this causes Quartus to hang.
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Oh wait I just had to wait seventeen minutes. cool.
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The PLL configuration "MegaWizard" . i'm not typing all this out for alt text as i barely know what i'm looking at . there are various controls for PLL parameters in this wizard dialog
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i bet there are people reading this that know how to actually use this stuff and are having themselves a sensible chuckle at my expense
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@gloriouscow I think it's easy to just default to implementing solutions in software. There are plenty of good reasons why - the tooling is usually better and more familiar, it requires less specialized knowledge, it's often easier to throw together the first PoC and to extend it later.
Often the "proper" solution is that you probably should be working at a lower level - whether that's FPGAs or discrete components. The classic example is using an Arduino to make a blinking light. I don't think there should be any shame in it no matter what solution one uses, but good engineering involves knowing when you've outgrown the current approach
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@gloriouscow to be honest going FPGA would kill most of the tingle that project caused in my brain.
I'm obsessed now with the idea of an IBM compatible build only out of picos.
I will follow your progress with interest anyway. I like your way to think and your presentation style. Jeep up the food work. <3
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@Hackbroetchen No, I get where you're coming from. I did joke that using an FPGA makes it feel like it's no longer a hack.
I start a lot of projects - its a bad habit of mine. It often seems like I abandon things, but there's a method to my madness. Many of my "new" projects are investments in acquiring knowledge and skills to finish older projects, while still getting to do fun stuff.
I've wanted to know how to program FPGAs for a while - I need the power of an FPGA to make a version of my ArduinoX86 that can run chips at full speed.
Making a digital logic simulation of the CGA would have otherwise been a distraction project, but making the Verilog MC6845 for it was the first step in learning FPGA programming. I wouldn't be sitting here with working video if I didn't already have a Verilog MC6845 written that I could just plop in.
This has all been planned. These are all pieces of a puzzle - my ultimate goal is an art piece - a cycle-accurate IBM 5150 replicated in on an FPGA, with a real 8088 at its heart, using one of those beautiful white ceramic and gold packages. I want to mount the CPU socket in a cutout in something like polished black plexiglass. So you just see the CPU, as if it were running all on its own.
It will be my love letter and tribute to the chip that started my journey into computing.
...All that said, I think I will still finalize the original, font-ROM based GlyphBlaster PCB. It's inexpensive, easy to install, and it's funny.
Maybe I'll call the FPGA version the GlyphBlaster Pro.
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@gloriouscow looking forward to that!
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@Hackbroetchen I might revisit the PIco stuff.
... honestly I bet a lot of the issues I was having with the Pico was just that damn capacitor.
@gloriouscow the 2350 also has an extremely flexible clock tree for micro; each off the gpouts has an individual int/frac divider with duty cycle correction and coarse phase adjustment
The PLL can also run up to 1600MHz (don't think any of the IO buffers can manage that though) and you can input an external clock to it (I think this is what you're doing)
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Section 8.1 of the rp2350 datasheet showing the clock tree
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@ldcd The plan is to drive the ISA board version off OSC, yeah. Can you give a Pico 2 board an external oscillator?
@gloriouscow I’m pretty happy with my decision to use an ESP32 on PicoIDE. It’s a little awkward dealing with a different SDK and toolchain but kind of fun?
@gloriouscow I’ve found the drawings in the EISA spec (https://picogus.com/docs/isa/EISA_Specification-v3.1.pdf) to be the closest thing to actual cards I’ve seen BTW
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@gloriouscow keep in mind the descender behind the edge fingers will prevent this card from fitting in a 16-bit slot. you might want to pull that back.
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@gloriouscow can you just use a PIO for that?
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@petrillic That's the plan, overclock to 315MHz, then just have a PIO running to twiddle a GPIO every 11 cycles.
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💾 [@gloriouscow glad we're not at the state of vibe hardware yet where we need to convince it to actually do that
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@gloriouscow I’ve done the exact same thing for a VGA 25.175MHz clock. :)
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@bytex64 just out of curiosity what's the derivation of that how how did you drive it with a pico?
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@gloriouscow IIRC it’s the regular fractional divider PWM mode but it was a while ago. I do have the source for it: https://github.com/bytex64/tt-munch/tree/main/clockgen
It’s also not super exact. IIRC the closest it could get was like 25.150 or something.
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@gloriouscow let’s rather not buy stuff off the “surveillance cop, proud of it and silencing questioning voices” organisation
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@mirabilos do you know how little that narrows it down
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@gloriouscow the raspberry pi foundation, in this case (I have more grievances than just that one, too)
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I remain kinda heart broken, that I don't really see FreeBSD following NetBSD's example of banning slop code from the project.
However, it's the BSD that remains the easiest to slot into my life; and at this point, it looks like slop code is going to infect the vast majority of medium and large scale FLOSS projects.
Linux distros all have it in their kernel, and it's littered in low level dependencies and programming language already. Even if individual distros ban it from their project code.
OpenBSD has some sort of quasi-ban except for those tmux commits no one likes talking about, and who knows where else.
AND it's already infected a good amount of stuff in NetBSD's pkgsrc.
SO, it's increasingly feeling like it's going to litter your computer no matter what you do.
SO im trying to make some sort of peace with, using software tainted by it. WHILE still avoiding using LLMs directly. 
#AntiAI #NotAI
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made me want to move in to the woods and start writing my own software for my own use :)
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@bpl Haiku has banned AI from the project, but it's alot like NetBSD, in that slop code is all over haikuports / haikudepot.
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@thezerobit I think you should do what you're doing, switch one computer over, try to make it your main computer, and see how it goes.
Having an escape hatch for awhile is probably healthy and good, and will help you research/debug/compare any issues you find.
Eventually you can convert more machines as you feel like it.
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@d6 Yeah, I was going to "install" the OS onto a USB drive rather than the main SSD anyways and just boot to that for awhile so I have an easy fallback. Might eventually set up some of these systems to dual boot from the main drive, too.
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@thezerobit @d6 If you are already using grub2, it knows how to load NetBSD's kernel directly. I've used it in the past to dual boot Linux and NetBSD.
These days I've been using limine on my multiboot machines, and it's been great. It will happily chain load just about anything (this machine triple boots NetBSD, OpenBSD and Linux, I have another machine running OpenBSD, FreeBSD and tribblix, both using limine for the boot selection menu).
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it all depends on what hardware you have and what software you want to run.
netbsd, openbsd, freebsd... try them all :)
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Chat, is this bad? (the breaker is off…)
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Not exactly sure what's going on, I thought it was a bad breaker, but no a brand new one exhibits this same issue. No other sockets exhibit the same, they have zero voltage across when their respective breaker is off.
And yes, I have called a Qualified Electrician to take a look because this is the same wall socket that had an electric stove hooked up to and when I got rid of the stove the quick connectors used to hook it up were all sad and melty, so I don't trust this wiring. It is probably Evil 
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@hi I know when I reached the limits of my knowledge and it's time to hand it over (there are also some other things I have been wanting to have inspected...).
Now if only I could find an English-speaking electrician...
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@hi (since the breaker works, I suspect shenanigans in the neutral wire, as that's not actually connected to the breaker, but there is enough current flowing that it tripped the residual current breaker when I (I guess) touched the wires to the ground wire - which is how I found out about the Evil in the first place - but also not enough current to trigger the contactless live wire tester)
how is your estonian, by the way?
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@hi ma õppin :)
It's good enough to tell the electrician I'm calling that I'm looking for an english-speaking electrician, but certainly not good enough to explain in the ways my apartment's electrical wiring is cursed and in need of being exorcised :D
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requirements:
- play audio and video from local storage
- play all files from one directory one by one
- play in the background when phone is locked
- (optional) remember position in a file
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I use VLC
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@hi seconding @continue 's suggestion for VLC.
I just use it for my podcasts (which I batch download into one flat directory as you mention wanting to play) so I can't speak to the video aspects, but I've seen support in there. It plays when the phone is locked and remembers where you left off. And in my case, I like that I can crank playback speed since I usually listen at 2–2.5× while maintaining pitch. It also has an EQ to help make some podcasts easier to understand.
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Interesting. It seems like there are way more Linux users here than I expected.
So, let’s do a little roll call:
What are you using?
Linux?
Windows?
macOS?
BSD?
Something beautifully weird?
I’m curious 👀
#Linux #LinuxUser #Fediverse #Mastodon #OpenSource #Tech #OldschoolInternet
| Linux: | 268 |
| Windows: | 17 |
| macOS: | 46 |
| BSD: | 39 |
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"There are now many vi clones and derivatives to choose from, and I couldn’t find a good comprehensive list of all of them with links, so here’s mine."
https://lpar.ath0.com/posts/2026/05/the-vi-family/
(and I hold my breath for @ed1conf to release a good comprehensive list of all ed(1) releases with links 😜)
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A very unimportant question because u got a new iPad with a keyboard case:
When you put stickers on your laptop or laptop-type thing, do you place them so they are right side up for you when your laptop is closed or right side up for others when it’s open?
| For me when closed: | 3 |
| For others when open: | 12 |
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Being a corporation is not punk. But which is *least* punk?
| Microsoft: | 24 |
| Google: | 9 |
| Apple: | 7 |
| IBM: | 29 |
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@a they are all so painfully not punk...
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@rose_alibi I picked these four because dropping in, like, Palantir or a defense contractor would've just swamped the results.
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@a IBM by the tiniest margin though
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same here, and I'm pretty sure that IBM these days won't even deal with anyone who isn't a large corporate, especially since they sold their hardware division to Lenovo many years ago..
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@vfrmedia @rose_alibi Hrm, you might be right; I think my mental model of them is stuck pre-sale.
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@a I'm kinda torn (I voted IBM). IBM have never ever given or wanted to give any punk vibes, in fact, the opposite. But Microsoft, on the other hand, have at times tried and failed spectacularly to be punk.
Which of the two attitudes is the least punk? I do not know.
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ok new touchscreen samples for MNT Vector (7inch tablet) are in, and they're great. now how to build and run Gnome Mobile on Debian...
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eINK? Or LCD? Or LED?
Just curious (and always looking for good eINK devices to make into book readers. An MNT based device with eINK, running debian, could use calibre as its ebook reader)
@mntmn Hello,
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@mntmn I love it (ofc). Would be awesome if it would be possible to back it without the...sbc-card (cannot remember the proper term) if I wanna move around and upgrade my MNT Reform Next.
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@mntmn love to see more of the mnt tablet. I hope it won't be too chunky in the final version
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@mntmn Ooooooooohhhh... If it:
Runs "Libby" https://askubuntu.com/questions/1555829/how-to-install-libby-in-ubuntu
Isn't too heavy to hold for a long time
Runs some other pdf/ebook reader software
.... it could 100% be my new e-reader.
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@mntmn That's pretty flickery on camera. Looks smooth otherwise, though.
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I made this a few years ago, to compare the size of the entire screen on an original 128k Mac with the size of the Safari icon on modern macOS. Enjoy!
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An image of an old original Mac screen, superimposed over and dwarfed by a Safari icon.
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Psst! Hey, you, yes you,
here's another zine about some obscure computing paradigm.
https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/pocket_nets
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The first two pages, showing the nodes and the first two rules of graph rewriting
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@neauoire c'est pas très bon pour la santé mentale je crois bien 😂 j'ai passé la journée a me demander comment faire de l'arithmétique avec des nombres entiers (int64)
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@maxime_andre Haha, je travaille justement sur un section sur la page sur l arithmetic
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@neauoire t'as fait des trucs récursifs déjà avec les interaction nets ? c'est balaise... factorial j'arrive, du coup je pensais que fibonacci ce serait facile, mais non... 😅
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@neauoire Well thanks for giving me the thing I'm gonna be studying the next few days!!!
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@gimmechocolate lemme know if you have any questions :) Here's a little playground if you want to test some nets:
https://inets.t6.dev/#0PYVwLgUGBOIKYAIC8CAUqCGCBGBKNWeuEEcAHjBgMZjJrqIBU+ADvqom8eZTXajHgJQYYkA
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@neauoire So far I found out it fits in with lambda calculus! am now wondering if it'd fit in with ML/homotopy type theory!!!
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@gimmechocolate it does! but being linear, you'll see pretty fast how it falls short, especially if you need multiple bindings or copies of things. There's very little exploration in IN-native, not necessarily LC-brained, nets in the current literature. I'm curious to see what you find going down the homotopy road.
How it started/how it's going. 
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Large grey battery cells, arranged in a 8-by-2 pattern within a black frame, connected via spot-welded nickel strips (with the spot welder in the background), on a silicon mat on a table with various other DIY electronics equipment scattered around. A wide connector with its many cables attached to individual cells lies unattached on the table.
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Battery cells, now wrapped in tape, with a small battery management device attached on the top connected with thick cables to the battery terminals. The previously unconnected many wires are now attached to the battery manager, visible under the semi-transparent tape cover. A phone displays battery information and individual cell voltages of the newborn battery bank
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Building your own battery bank isn't particularly cheap, the cells here cost ~70 euro (a little less in bulk), the BMS is another 20, and then all the equipment and materials - while you can easily find a similar-size ~20Ah batteries under 100 EUR.
However what you get with building your own (besides the skills/experience) is *flexibility*.
See, the 20Ah "Trolling motor" battery from Renogy is $90, and you get a decent 12V battery for that price with about 240Wh of capacity. But it's a *dumb* battery. Want to monitor your battery status, capacity, charging/discharging? Most brands will sell you a "smart" battery - with a hefty markup! - that has bluetooth and an app* you can download (though, probably not in this size/price category).
But can you get one with *wired* monitoring? And, maybe a 24V one without having to deal with balancing series-connected batteries? No money can buy that.
Mine can do all of this and more.
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The most infuriating bit, of course is the standard enshittification "you don't actually own the thing you bought" part.
My Ecoflow power station locks most features in an app that needs a cloud account to do *anything at all*. And it has Bluetooth! My Anker power station? Better, at least it lets you control the device with the app over bluetooth, however it will try to upsell you on connecting it to wifi(!!) and logging in at every opportunity, and will only do firmware updates when you log in and connect it to wifi. So you need to connect to wifi to fix security issues caused by...connecting your batteries to the internet. 
https://flaki.social/@flaki/115016229202016176
This reminded me of the screenshot I took the other day and forgot to post
https://flaki.social/@flaki/115016139335121817Important context: Anker's power stations can be accessed via Bluetooth & their app. They really want you, though, to create a cloud account, to the point that they nag you every time you start up the app, but you can skip it. The one thing you *need* to have a cloud account for is connecting your power station to wifi: and while they will tell you you have a pending firmware update, you can only install it by connecting to wifi (which requires linking to a cloud account).
With that context now you can really see the beauty here: please install this latest firmware update that fixes important security issues arising when connecting your fucking SOLAR POWER BANK to the cloud by... being forced to connect said overgrown phone charger to the internet.
Fuckin A+, brilliant, no notes.
#enshittification #internetOfThings
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Screenshot of the Firmware Update screen of the app. Icon shows a smaller C1000 solar power bank from Anker. Instructions in red: • Please charge the device via AC before updating • Ensure the device's Wi-Fi is activated New version: v1.5.9 🔴 Current version: v1.5.1 What's new? Security Update: the firmware update improves your device security. After upgrading, follow the on-screen guide to confirm the connection. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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Funnily enough, the JBD BMS I used for this custom battery build supports Bluetooth, and comes with its own app.
That only lets you view rudimentary statistics. And you can't even configure your BMS to your battery bank's specifics until you create an account with them and log in!
But then, here's the kicker, to put insult to injury if you do all these and then *dare to disable wifi* (still logged in!!) the app will forget everything about this BMS and will refuse to give you proper access until you reconnect to wifi! 
But remember, the flexibility part? Trivially you can use a variety of hardware/software solutions (probably the easiest is ESPHome/Home Assistant) to control the BMS without the app - either wired with the on-board UART port or via Bluetooth.
https://github.com/syssi/esphome-jbd-bms
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@flaki week you write this up somewhere? I'm super curious
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@coldclimate eventually 
https://flaki.social/@flaki/116533375955761568
@asciijungle it's evolving :)
There will likely be a blogpost out of it eventually. I have been experimenting with solar power for a while now, so I have a bunch of stuff lying about that I don't regularly use, like this Ecoflow River 3 power station and a couple amorphous silicone (=flexible/light portable) panels that I stuck on my East-facing balcony so they get to take in the AM sun.
The easiest is to just hook everything up to the power station's AC output and only enable AC charging when the sun doesn't provide power and the battery level is low (you could automate this with home assistant or similar if you wanted).
Better is running whatever you can from DC power and skipping the inverter altogether. Even with voltage conversion and other losses you are going to see at least the same or better efficiency.
My next step is more storage and a higher-voltage battery (which improves DC power conversion losses), skipping the Ecoflow power station entirely and going full DIY.
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@flaki looks good!
I built a 25Ah 48v battery a few years ago. The cells were great (I've still got them here) but my BMS was always the weak point.
I chose Daly (who seemed to be a big player) but, despite using 30A or 40A rated BMSs and only charging/discharging at a max of 10A, i had to replace the BMS three times in four years.
Last year I got fed up of fixing it (and LFP cell prices had plummeted) so I bought a 315Ah / 16kWh kit from Fogstar and retired the 25Ah cells.
@coldclimate FYI.
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Sixteen blue 25 amp-hour lithium iron phosphate cells, connected in series by silvery aluminium busbars.
Thin red wires connect each cell to the battery management system, while thick black wires lead to a yellow XT60 plug at the far left of the photo.
All packed within a plywood box with a hinged lid.
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Note I wouldn't build it quite like this if I was doing it again today. I'd use actual cell separators, for example, rather than relying on the shrink-wrap. But the principle is the same.
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@sheddi @coldclimate yeah I have used JK-BMS for my previous build https://flaki.social/@flaki/116127774031846291 honestly it works decently well, my only complaint is that at low power draw (<100W) the power consumption figures are very approximate (which is sort of understandable for a 100A BMS). So I wanted to try something more oriented for smaller cells/builds, the JBD seems that, more aimed at e-bikes and similar. I like these 32700 cells because of the size and flexibility, even if in raw storage they are not the most efficient.
I have some 280Ah prismatic cells coming in that will eventually likely go into a "battery wall" case or rackmount case, those will be the main bulk power storage for the house, these 32700 cell builds are more for experimentation and learning.
Couple days ago I finished my first ever custom-built battery pack, which is now assembled and running in test mode at the Flaki Farm (aka my "cabin").
It was a fun challenge! For sizable home ESS (solar electricity storage) it is much better to go with a couple large prismatic cells and simple screw-on bus bars but I really wanted to try my hand at spot-welding a reasonably-sized stationary pack from cylindrical LiFePO4 cells. It's not winning any endurance contests, but the 32 cells sport ~25Ah (~600Wh) of energy that will happily run the house's systems (Home Assistant, LTE router, etc.) for a few days and can handle a useful inverter load (should be capable of 1kW so you can make some ham & eggs & tea with it, easy-peasy).
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@coldclimate @sheddi you are quite likely better off just flat-out replacing the existing battery with a new bank. Depending on the specifics of your installation and system, you might be able to just plug&play replace it and then have it re-inspected (which you need if you are feeding into the grid).
14kWh battery banks (16S 48V) on Ali Express go for under 1.500 EUR. The raw cells I ordered were ~1000 EUR and you can get a BMS and a case for 3-400 EUR if you eager to build, but there is little to be gained if you just want a working system, buy a premade box.
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tiny lua compiler: a lua compiler in a single file, that's well-documented, that was hand-crafted over several years, and made to teach you compiler/tokenizer/parser/lexer design.
this is a crazy impressive project, and in a time when people are haphazardly slopcoding projects, is a standard to live by.
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@vga256 I love this so much. It reminded me of this 21-line spelling corrector in Python https://impythonist.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/peter-norvigs-21-line-spelling-corrector-using-probability-theory/
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I sell Libreboot, and Libreboot accessories.
Libreboot is free/opensource boot firmware, replacing proprietary BIOS/UEFI. I'm Libreboot's founder and lead developer, and I use sales to fund the project.
Libreboot gives you better security and customisation. As a Free Software project, Libreboot democratises the boot firmware, giving you control. It's your computer, nobody elses.
Debian Linux, other distro or a BSD of your choice can be preinstalled.
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@libreleah of course this is probably in their ball court as much as yours but I'm curious if you have any plans or interest in doing framework laptops with libreboot?
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@wombatpandaa I have no such plans, and I'm aware that the company responsible for Framework products has made some rather problematic political choices as of late; if a Libreboot port were to become technically viable, I still very likely would not touch Framework with a fourty-kilometer barge pole.
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@libreleah I wasn't aware of any political faux pas, I may have to look into that. Whatever the case, fair enough! In this era we have to be willing to carefully pick our battles.
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@wombatpandaa If free boot firmware were supported, you could just use whatever they/someone provides. As I said, I'm almost certainly not touching Framework at all. I don't want to be associated with that company in any way whatsoever.
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@libreleah gotcha, thanks for being straight with me about it! And for all the work you do for the open source community.
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@libreleah You make the same mistake like most selling laptops. You didn't put the screen size anywhere. Its not even in the specs.
Screensize is mostly the first decision when buying a new laptop. And there are few who already know how many inches has a Lenovo T480...
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@evangeligal correct! i've fixed this now. i simply put it in the title of each product page. i don't even think about screen sizes myself, easy to overlook.
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"It's your computer, nobody elses"
On that note, have you considered adding a guide for assembling your own laptop batteries?
Would also be interesting to see Libreboot ported to various small form factor desktops, especially the ones that are energy-efficient enough to be converted into DIY laptops (thin clients, high-end Chromeboxes, industrial/embedded machines).
Also massive thanks for re-arranging the list of supported devices (sorting by hardware generations and installation difficulty): frankly surprised that you didn't announce it on here.
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@moses_izumi i mean, i didn't do that, someone else did and i merged their patche. making your own battery packs should be feasible. e.g. a bunch of lipo batteries wired in parallel for amperage. there are probably already solutions for this that you can just buy. generic portable power supplies. for a high power desktop, yeah get a large UPS (that's what i use at home and at the lab)
so long as the voltages match you should be fine
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@moses_izumi the libreboot documentation needs a massive audit and cleanup, and add a few missing bits.
i did this for the libreboot build system from 2023-2025, essentially re-writing it incrementally over a two-year period. that same obsessive love is needed for lbwww.git i think
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Today I tried out my new Ego battery powered riding lawnmower and it was... well...
Complicated.
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An unoccupied Ego (battery powered) Z6 zero turn riding lawn mower sitting at the edge of my yard and driveway.
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There are at least 3 complications in play:
1. I've never driven a zero-turn machine before. It's simple in principle but not as easy as it seems in the heat of the moment. (aka trying not to hit a tree)
2. My yard is apparently more sloped than is ideal for these sorts of mowers. I was worried about that, but I had no idea where the line was. I think my yard is over the line.
3. The battery life was rated for 1.5 acres. I have 1 acre. That seemed like it'd be good enough margin. It is not.
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The first issue is perhaps mostly a skill issue - but I'm not sure. Perhaps I can learn to be better at it. In the time I spent with it today, I did feel I was already improving, but due to some of the hills and the 30 trees I have to contend with in my yard, there were a number of close calls that I felt legit freaked out by.
You ever see those videos of some old guy getting confused about which pedal is the brakes and then crashing through a building?
That.
I get it now.
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As a n00b with this control scheme, it feels unbelievably dangerous. As in - how the hell do they sell these. This isn't likely a problem unique to Ego. It's not even a problem unique to this kind of machine. I mean, a motorcycle kinda has the same thing going on there.
But the thing is, I didn't expect a motorcycle. I didn't expect this learning curve.
I have a spot near my mailbox that plunges 10-15 feet straight down to a drainage creek. I'm terrified to cut anywhere near that with this.
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And, again, this likely has nothing to do with the Ego - it's the zero-turn control scheme. I might get better at it. I have to remind myself I have literally decades of experience driving a "normal" wheel+pedal type of arrangement and zero experience with this. But holy hell.
Which brings me to the second issue.
I figured this would work better on hills, tbh. I mean, just look at the center of gravity here. The weight of me + batteries are all right over the drive axle.
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What I failed to think about (and didn't run across anyone mentioning), is that doesn't matter in the slightest because if one of the two wheels slips a bit, like, say, when on a slope, you suddenly cannot turn.
You need both drive wheels to turn. The front wheels are just coasters. The only way to turn is to have BOTH wheels firmly on the ground.
Imagine the terror of a momentary lapse about which handle to pull to turn while on a slope and gravity pulling you down and it won't steer anymore.
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So not only is the handling on a slope somewhat terrifying to a zero-turn n00b, it also absolutely murders battery life.
Which brings me to the third point.
My yard is 1 acre. It has a whole house on it. There's an old trampoline. An area we ignore that we call the "prairie." What I'm getting at is, it's nowhere near an acre of grass.
I stopped for lunch and the battery was already down to something like 30% left. I wasn't even half done.
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I charged it over lunch, but not to full.
Cut some more and ran it dead. (Luckily it shuts off the mower before going entirely dead so you can drive it back to the garage - which is handy.)
Then I charged it for another hour or so. (Again, not to full.)
I managed to finish the yard at that point.
It's *possible* that maybe I could do the whole yard with one *full* charge break.
Maybe.
But that's the thing - given its 1.5 acre capacity I didn't expect to have to.
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At one point it was down to 10% or so. I went up one of the hills and watched it drop an entire percentage point. I went back down and then back up the hill again. It dropped another whole percentage point.
The hills are murder for this. Obviously they tested this on a totally flat 1.5 acre lot (maybe one with a HUGE house on it, too).
So all in all, this is very disappointing.
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It's possible that 1 and some of 2 could be mitigated by experience. I might simply get better at it. (Hopefully will.) And maybe it won't feel so dangerous and such.
But 3 and the other half of 2 are just physics. I can't do anything about them.
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Yeah, sure, I could spend even more money on bigger batteries for it. (And maybe I eventually will.)
But that's just a bandaid, isn't it?
If I'm right about needing at least one full recharge for my yard, then I don't even think I could get a single pass even if I replaced all SIX of the batteries with Ego's biggest (and wildly expensive) batteries.
I fear that the energy math just doesn't work here.
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And the disappointing thing is... I can't tell if this is a case of not doing the math correctly or just not having the info. How could I have known? They said it'd cut 1.5 acres. Probably some fine print says "(must be totally flat)." But I missed it. (And maybe didn't want to see it.) How do you factor in the slopes?
But there's no returning it or something without a huge financial loss. Even if I were to somehow exchange it magically for the tractor version it won't fix the battery issue.
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So ultimately I'm probably stuck with it.
I mean, I don't totally hate it. My assumption is I'll get better at it.
I can do the yard in two passes, maybe, sure.
But that's all kinda not the point. It's quieter. A *lot* quieter. It's cleaner. When I'm not near barriers, it's actually pretty fun to drive.
But it's turned what used to be a 1-1.5 hour job into multiple passes with multi-hour charging downtime.
I'm not all that happy with this tradeoff right now.
So yeah.
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@bigzaphod maybe you've already checked, but are the tires aired up to spec?
Lower tire air pressure = more rolling resistance = more battery drain. Might be worth checking (dealer could easily have gotten it wrong). If it is correct already, maybe over-air by 10-15% if it's safe to do so?
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@bigzaphod You’ll def get better at driving it, like anything it takes practice. I’m sure you’ll also get more efficient at mowing the lawn. Then the only that’s left is somehow hooking your solar panels up to charge it and you’ll be golden! Seriously though, glad you’re okay. You need to get one of the kids to film you while you mow so we can see some of what you’re experiencing.
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@gedeonm @bigzaphod i was thinking the same thing about efficiency, EVs are much more sensible to how you drive and it can have a big impact on range where on gas it wouldn’t make as big a difference. especially now that you’re struggling with turning in the hills once you figure it out i bet it’ll be at least a bit better
but also: agreed on the video, would be fun for us to watch 😂
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@manolo @gedeonm yeah I suspect some amount of range improvement might come just from better technique. It’s so sensitive to small changes on the levers and I was herky jerky all over the place overcorrecting, over accelerating, etc. trying to get used to it. Plus there are probably better or more efficient ways to tackle the hills than my old route. One the one hand, might be interesting to experiment. Other the other hand, I didn’t expect to have too, I guess.
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@bigzaphod @manolo @gedeonm You’ll get used to operating it. When I was a kid, we had a field swather that had the same controls. It just takes a while to learn. Be careful on the slopes though. You might have to change your cutting pattern so that you always are at a safe approach on the slopes.
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@bigzaphod ooof. That’s rough. It does tell me a few things:
One is that our mowing area includes steep enough slopes — a little iffy even in a tractor style, depending on conditions — that a zero-turn of any sort is out of the question.
Two is that, partly because of #1, if our current one dies electric might be questionable — though I expect the range would be less affected by slopes with the tractor style.
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@bigzaphod I just watched a couple of videos demonstrating zero-turn handling on various slopes and… yeah, that wouldn't work here.
Most would be fine, and a bunch doable, if a little freaky (and more finicky than I'd like), while getting used to it — but there are a couple of slopes I wouldn't even attempt.
Not that it really matters since we're not in the market anytime soon, but clarity is good.
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@bigzaphod Maybe it would be fine, and I'm just getting overly cautious in my advancing years — but I'm not terribly interested in running the experiment 🙃
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@montyhayter that's what bugs me. I didn't want this to be an experiment for anything more than, like, battery power. Now it's like 3 other things. And I'm not young and adventurous anymore. (Or maybe I never was.. lol.)
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@bigzaphod If I had to guess, it’ll all be mostly “fine” in the end — you'll get used to driving it, and the best way to deal with the slopes — picking up some efficiency in the process — and settle into a new mow-charge-mow routine.
But it is unfortunate that the transition is considerably more fraught than expected, and the upsides not unmitigated.
robots mowers are not that good yet?
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@hi well I don't know for sure. I briefly considered a robot, but the vast majority were for 0.5 acres so that kind of ruled most of them out - although I'm not sure what the limit is there. (Couldn't they just go back to the charger and make multiple passes throughout the week? I dunno.)
My robot vacuums haven't been very smart and honesty I sort of doubt the grass robots are much smarter. But... I don't really know.
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@bigzaphod I don’t have this model but when I did push mowing with an electric mower we just expected to buy multiple sets of batteries. One charging while you mow then swap.
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@ezekiel the batteries are *really* expensive. But that brings up another issue - the machine very cleverly *is* part of the charger, to some degree. Like, I plug the wall charger into the machine to charge them all together. No need to remove the batteries. Great except now there's no charger to put another set of batteries on, either. So to do that, now you need *another* charger in addition to the batteries. I happen to have a 2-battery charger for the snowblower, but this thing uses 6.
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@bigzaphod have you considered augmenting with a robot lawnmower? I saw some at the local airport this week, they seemed to be doing an alright job.
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@kboyd too expensive to augment, really... maybe should have just got a robot (or two) instead of the Ego... but... I dunno. I've only seen 1 of them around here. Not sure if they just aren't popular or don't work well in our climate for some reason. I'm a bit skeptical of them still, though, considering I've had 3 robot vacuums over the years and they've all been kinda dumb and I'm kind of doubting the lawnmowers work much better... but..... hard to say!
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@bigzaphod Ah. Well, I'm sorry that the electification result has been so resoundingly disappointing.
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@bigzaphod My experience with electric mowers is that long grass also kills range. We had an electric push mower once and if I couldn’t mow at least once a week (or more in spring) the range was obliterated.
It sounds like you have a lot of room to make your route more efficient as you get used to using it.
Range anxiety also extends to lawn mowers, apparently. 😅
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@bigzaphod 1 and 2 are absolutely addressable with practice. We have a gas zero turn mower and I drive it up onto and down off of a slope of at least 30° every time we mow. It is along the edge of our driveway, so I go up and down it again and again and sometimes drive along it sideways, depending on where I am.
That is about building confidence. The thing that is more skill is learning to do a really tight turn without spinning one of the wheels.
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@bigzaphod just looked up what zero turn means, that seems so complicated to drive. i mean maybe it’s fine but like you said that’s got some steep learning curve for sure!
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@manolo it's way harder than it looks. I see guys using these all over the place here in industrial/commercial settings. But dang... I had no idea they were this tricky to control. And they zoom through those yard like it's Mario Kart.
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@bigzaphod I would return it ASAP and hire a service.
But that’s just me. I cut way too many lawns as a kid and young homeowner to ever want it to do it again.
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@bigzaphod I worked for an importer of various zero turn machines (Hustler, BigDog, Walker). I can say with experience that tire choice makes a big difference on slopes (turf vs traction focussed), but so too does ensuring that your zero turn is rated for the slopes you want to use them on.
There is definitely nuance to the control scheme (less steering input than you expect, in many cases); but it could also be that this style of machine is just not suited to your terrain.
The battery life issue is a seperate factor, of course. But when I left that market, I know that there were nascent commercial EV zeroturns that were getting all day run life.
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@bigzaphod Fascinated about how this is worse than gas in re #2 would have thought these would be lower center of gravity
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@bigzaphod I used commerical lawn equipment when I worked for the city years ago.
1. It’s like riding a bicycle, once you get comfortable you’ll be flying around corners and wonder why anyone uses anything but.
2. The center of gravity is much lower on these compared to a tractor. I have mowed incredibly steep hills on both tractors and zero turns. The tractor will flip if you’re not careful. I’ve never come even close to flipping on a zero turn. With that said, don’t push past your comfort.
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@bigzaphod We have a half acre yard and my wife tried our neighbors zero turn. She was incredibly uncomfortable and liked our tractor more but after about 3 cuts, she wants to buy a zero turn now
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@joshdm even near the end of my first cut I did sometimes get that weird zen feeling with it - like it was very briefly just an extension of myself. I would think, "I should go over there" and then the machine just... went over there. Which was awesome. But then I'd snap into indecision when I got close to a tree or fence or something and immediately pull the wrong lever.
I'm hoping the skill thing works out and I get better at it. But it's been a long time since I've learned to ride a bike. 😛
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@bigzaphod wonder how many of these you’d need to cut your yard.. https://9to5mac.com/2026/05/01/iphone-controlled-anthbot-m9-robot-lawn-mower-has-replaced-cutting-grass-for-me/
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@bigzaphod @davidfindley I love EVs. I have EV cars and two EV bikes in my house but when I was looking at this lawnmower, I didn’t get the sense that it would work for me. Picked up a used John Deere instead and it’s been working great. Seems like I made the right choice.
I apologize for bringing this into the world.
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@gloriouscow neat! There was a similar demo that turned a webcam or video into PETSCII via the PET's RAM.
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I'm literally unscrewing lightbulbs to renew their DHCP lease
smart home was a mistake
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@db I had a smart bulb in my apartment that needed to turn off and on in rapid succession 10 times in order to enter pairing mode. The knob on the lamp swapped between 3 settings (off, low, on) so turning off and on wasn't fast enough via that method. And it wasn't connected to a light switch, which meant I had to repeatedly pull the plug out of the outlet and jam it back in to get it to work
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@db i enjoy having smart home, but i think devices like thermometers and lightbulbs etc should never be on a computer network, with stuff like IP and DHCP and whatever. zigbee and whatever sounds a lot more reasonable to me, and perhaps optionally a little dongle for a computer to be able to talk to them
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I got in the habit long ago to reserve addresses for every device I know is mine, so I guess without knowing it, I've sidestepped this issue entirely.
Although, I had to reset one light last year to get it to honor an NTP time change. It was on a dusk to dawn setting and somehow got a corrupted local cache and also jumped into a different time zone.
As I typed that, I'm thinking how absurd it is that a light bulb has a damned data cache in the 1st place.
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@db mains breaker off -> on?
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@finity i'll remember that for next time
i needed to do it one by one so that I could label each MAC address
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@db 15 years ago I was like "smart home sounds cool but all of it will be pricey because system needs to be robust".
5 years ago I was like "so they just did not bother at all".
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@db Feel ya! Having Plejd for controlling light switches etc. Bought new lights with "smart" features and the light is great... But, when the internal battery of the lights runs out (aka you have the switch turned off for to long)... Next time you turn the lights on they go in to pairing mode (flashing until pairing is done) #fml
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@db oh dang, the light switch signal is lost again in an mqtt QoS1 queue as the home assistant mqtt client disconnected due to an invalid certificate since the acme client can't authenticate against the DNS server, bummer
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when design my home next time, i'll make it as dumb and as flexible as possible (to be able to change pipes, wires, partition walls, etc)
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@db What I want to know is why the fuck we put the microcontroller in the literally designed to be disposable part of the light and not as an additional layer like a smart plug. At least then, you could just take out that additional layer and deal with dumb lighting while you fix it.
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[@disorderlyf @db Such things exist! When I was bying parts for my "smart" home I saw the little cylinder-shaped things with E27/E14 connector on the one side and a same socket on the other side, so the usual lamp could be inserted and replaced while the "smart" part stays intact.
But I spent a lot of time on the online marketplace to find one. The marketplaces nowadays are filled with that idiotic WiFi lamps with RGB colors and the phone app to control it 
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@evgandr @disorderlyf yeah in hindsight it makes way more sense to "smarten" the switch/relay and not the lightbulb itself
the market does indeed suck, i've given up looking
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@db what, you didn’t create a separate, isolated 2.4 GHz WiFi network just for your lightbulbs, and assigned them each a static IP? I thought that was basic practice, once you assembled your team of lightbulb installation IT specialists!
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@Archaide zigbee wasn't an option when i stupidly bought very expensive wifi bulbs, they'll pay for themselves in another 10 years
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@db So how many DHCP leases does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
This really is a new twist on an old joke.
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Any recommendations for running my own mastodon instance on OpenBSD? I am using @OpenBSDAms and really want to continue moving my networks there
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also been practicing my colour selection for illustration; I still don't feel confident with colour and building palettes, but I think I'm getting somewhere
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A small illustration of a crumbled old wall with bushes growing out of it, in various shades of yellow stone and lush greens
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openbsd-79-base.pub: RWTSdNN9A3yvWNn7mUjXwv9DOCOUnyfuV+mq1iGPIfD+NhN8EYnEQ1at
openbsd-79-fw.pub: RWQdmBb/OCe1hXE08xCj5VLnBpGpphy7kYPdU3oWyfnrwswjtl8K385E
openbsd-79-pkg.pub: RWSw1kDLJJy6OYgnayEMReLV57z2rzx5jYNCghO+2ARwqd6KuwGFWSn7
openbsd-79-syspatch.pub: RWTJmz/ur68S9e26/JVRr7T88lAPZIF3YgZ3w2lDnf/frAxTerC/DrZ6
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aarch64: 12883
amd64: 13044
i386: 10631
mips64: 9309
powerpc64: 9507
sparc64: 10079
arm, powerpc, riscv64: work in progress
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I can't speak to the accuracy or "correctness" of the guy's instructions, but the way he opens the video is freaking hilarious.
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=uTrOIPIx7pY
How to Install OpenBSD (2027 Edition)
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it was mostly correct, though I'd have recommended copying the window manger (around @11:24) to /usr/local/bin rather than /usr/bin.
And overriding the resolution with xrandr in the .xsession file felt a little weird.
For a from-zero tutorial, I might have stuck to using vi/xterm/cwm instead of installing extra packages for vim/alacritty and building the WM, but there's value to installing zig and showing the build process if that's a goal.
But otherwise it wasn't too bad.
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Oh man, yeah. I never put anything in {,/usr}/{,s}bin except the occasional symlink.
I want to try a pure "just use base" install of #OpenBSD sometime. ;)
cwm is kinda neat, a wee bit reminiscent of #dwm or #rio, but definitely on the mousey side.
The default theme of the version of #fvwm they ship is kinda too colorful, but I'm sure it's extremely configurable... if I can only learn the rather elaborate config setup for it.
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I have a couple mostly-base systems and OpenBSD's is more usable than most. I wrote up some thoughts on using mostly-base. I'll see if I can find my notes.
While cwm has some mouse annoyances, it can be configured to be pretty keyboard-only, and I like that I can make windows chromeless (very few WMs let me remove all window chrome/border)
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I got cwm decently close to my i3wm config a while back ;)
My main reason for using i3/sway is the tabbed window mode. That's my favorite way to fly. ;)
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@rl_dane yeah, my ~/.cwmrc is pretty close to my ~/.fluxbox configuration. But one of the things I miss from fluxbox is the ability to group arbitrary windows together into a single tabbed group, and manipulate them as one.
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Ooo, what do fluxbox tabbed groups look like?
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@rl_dane You can position the tabs on any edge/corner you want. I prefer them vertically along the top-left edge like this screenshot showing a merged xterm+xpdf pair of windows. Hiding the window-chrome hides the title-bar and the tabs, but the "next tab" and "previous tab" key-combos continue to work even when they're not visible. You can also have them appear in the title-bar if that's your thing.
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As advertised, a screenshot of xpdf and an xterm merged into a single window that can be moved/resized, with tabs running vertically along the top edge of the left side of the window.
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That's neat! Can you switch between them with the keyboard?
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@rl_dane yep, from my .fluxbox/keys file (Mod4 is the Logo/Windows key)
Mod4 Next :NextTab
Mod4 Prior :PrevTab
which is Mod4+PgUp and Mod4+PgDn switch to the next/previous tab. There's also absolute indexing if you want something like
Mod4 Shift 1 :Tab 1
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Mod4 Shift 9 :Tab 9
Mod4 Shift0 :Tab -1
but I just use the next/previous ones.
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I find the arbitrary-window-grouping particularly helpful when dealing with Gimp palettes…I often end up with a half dozen floating windows for options/layers/colors/etc, and it's nice to corral them into one grouping that I can manipulate as a unit.
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Wait... how old a version of GIMP are you running? ^___^
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I'd have to check/dig, but there's a menu option somewhere to have single-window (default?) vs floating palettes (old way). So I usually enable the floating-tool windows and then let Fluxbox wrangle them for me which works better with my workflow than keeping them all contained in the single root Gimp window.
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Ah, you should try single window mode, it's pretty nice. It actually has its own tabs. :D
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@rl_dane I've tried it and find that it didn't fit my workflows well. Inkscape adopted a similar single-window containment and I tend to pop those out and let Fluxbox wrangle them too.
It might be different if I had multiple monitors or a larger screen, but on an old-school laptop monitor at 1366×768, it's what has worked best for me
@rl_dane Found one of my write-ups¹. A base system gets you:
GUI: xenodm/xenocara
Window managers: cwm (my favorite, gives me ~95% of what I use in fluxbox), fvwm (default) and twm (ouch)
Terminal: both the console and xterm
email: You can use mail(1) to read/compose mail, and send/receive via smtpd as long as your ISP/DNS is configured for outbound mail (or you configure smtpd to use a smart-host for relaying the mail). Also, supports aliases for address-book type info
web-serving: You have httpd & relayd in base . If all you want to serve is static pages, httpd will do just fine. If you want to serve dynamic pages, you can configure httpd with slowcgi and then farm out the dynamic serving to scripts using any of the available stock languages (C, /bin/sh, awk, or perl though I don't know which perl modules are available out of the box). You can also tie into tools like ftp which will perform web requests if you need to hit remote API endpoints.
other dev: base comes with a C compiler and scripting languages (as above, various shells & awk(1) as well as sed(1)).
text-editing: ed(1), vi(1), and mg(1) available out of the box
version control: cvs(1) or rcs(1)
project management: make(1)
documents: mandoc(1) or plain HTML with ed/vi/mg
games: You have the whole bsdgames collection (if you opted for them at install-time)
calendar: cal(1) and calendar(1), while reminders can be issued via cron(8)/at(1)
calculator: bc(1) and dc(1) as well as limited shell math like `echo $(( 314*141 + 589))` and using awk(1); also xcalc
networking: You have snmpd for network management, pf for building firewalls. lpd for sharing out printers. iscsid for dealing with iSCSI devices. unbound for DNS caching. ftp(1) for making web/API requests.
The big items I would tend to miss:
- web-browsing (lynx(1) was removed from base a while back)
- media (PDF viewing, music playback and editing, video, and graphics editing likeGimp or Inkscape or Blender)
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I know xterm is supposed to be this enormous terrifying bodge, but honestly it gets you a lot. I just don't know how good unicode/emoji support is. Even with #OpenBSD 7.8, some of the emoji appear as black and white outlines, instead of using the Noto Color Emoji font I have installed in ~/.fonts. I'd miss proper clipboard support (I think?), but the memory footprint sure is nicer:
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7632 16536 SpU 6:14PM 0:00.14 /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
49420 61956 S Fri06PM 0:01.30 alacritty
I so rarely check mail, other than on my work machine. :P
I should really learn awk more. I just use it as a glorified sed/tr/cut most of the time. ;)
Huh, when's GoT going to be included in base?
I do really love qalc/qalculate, but bc is pretty functional.
I would occasionally miss yt-dlp and mpv, and absolutely scrot/i3-scrot and imagemagick.
Oh man, and w3m and dillo! Argh. XD
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I haven't found a way to get color emoji, and the B&W emoji support is spotty (especially with double-width characters or the three-em dash). Fortunately, I don't use emoji for much in the terminal, so it's not much of an issue for me.
I haven't had clipboard issues, I can copy/paste to/from the SELECTION buffer (copy by selecting/paste with MMB), or use xsel from packages to facilitate clipboard manipulation (or clipit to manage clipboard history).
Awk is fantastic ☺
I wouldn't be surprised if GoT made it into the base system eventually which would be a nice upgrade.
As long as I remember to properly set the `scale` in bc, it works for much of what I need.
And yes, I do add scrot (and have keyboard bindings) for screenshots like the one I just gave 😆
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while I tried it on more than one occasion, it almost never produced useful answers. very much like modern LLM results in search-engines. If it's something simple and factual like "What's the capital of Morocco?" or "What's the current population of Texas?" it can usually succeed. But that deeply technical question? right out.
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Since my son was born ~a year ago I’ve been living a kind of fantasy project life, in that I’d often daydream about projects I could build or cool things I could work on, and plan them out in my head, and then not actually do anything about them because free time is essentially nonexistent. It’s still oddly satisfying in a way!
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@gosha and then, some free time comes back - and some things become things to share with children instead of just being personal ❤️
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@electret
100%
Free time is scarce, but you don't get that time back with the little ones. The projects can sit in the notebook and wait.
But, now my eldest is 6. We've 3D printed and built a working robot together. The other day I was updating a hobby game I built before she was born, and now she's drawing characters, I'm putting them in the game, and she's loving it. She's done Scratch Jr. Helping her exercise her creativity with the machine is a fresh kind of joy.
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We have an approach in our house of "computers are for creating, not consuming" and it's worked really well. Even just setting her up with art programs and the wacom or having her decorate ponies in this old game Paint N Play Pony. And now I can see that she feels powerful with the machine.
For me, I have my personal projects, but coding is also my job. For the kids, they have that original unbogged down spark.
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@gosha exactly the same situation! Our 2nd is nearly five months old now and the biggest difference is basically the lack of free "doing" time (especially laptop time is totally gone). Free "thinking" time is kinda there though, so yes, I have been planning a myriad of little things (programming language ideas mostly, for some reason), but without *actually* implementing them.
I do enjoy spending my time with my daughter and son though, and I feel I should enjoy that while it lasts...
On top of that, the whole IT world around me has gone bonkers for... well, you know what. So yes, it is a strange time to live in and raise kids.
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Which of the top 4 Fediverse server projects will be the first to implement the ActivityPub API?
#EvanPoll #poll #ActivityPub #ActivityPubAPI
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@evan I don't get it, isn't the point of these four supporting AP?
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@golemwire it's OK not to respond to polls about topics you don't understand!
This repo might help a bit.
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@golemwire ActivityPub has two main parts; a social API and a federation protocol. All of these platforms support the protocol but not the API (at least, not in read-write form).
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@evan Oh!
> Instead, they often implement platform-specific APIs, with a narrow range of functionality. Mastodon, for example, implements the Mastodon API, which focuses primarily on microblogging. Threads implements the Threads API. Many other ActivityPub implementers have APIs that clone the Mastodon API, to make it easier for users to adapt third-party Mastodon clients to their platforms.
That's really cool. Thank you so much for working on stuff like this, it makes a difference (you know :)
MNT Quasar module with Qualcomm QCS6490 now running our Debian System Image on MNT Reform Next
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@mntmn so now I’m looking forward to my reform next AND the quasar board for whenever that ships. Would it be after the first next shipments or more 2027 territory? Really cool!
@mntmn Sick! I am playing around with Radxa Q6A (same cpu as far as I know). Great performance - especially single thread. However, not great support for encode and the npu mainline yet. But for laptop yes - homeserver - not so much (yet).
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In his latest “Pivot to AI” OpenAI faces cash crunch in 2026 as bills come due, @davidgerard (accurately) says: “#OpenAI works by setting as much money as it can on fire, as fast as possible.”
But I want to know: if we had $200B in, say, $100 notes, and we literally set them on fire:
- would it dispose of the money faster? How long would it take?
- would the impact on the environment be worse or less bad?
I gotta think there is someone on the #fediverse with the wherewithal to figure this out. Surely if we boost this, it will nerdsnipe the right person and we will learn the answer.
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@paco @davidgerard Former chemist, so a nerd snipe on anything to do with rapid oxidation and other fun material transformations is possible, but I'm going to give it the ol' Fermi problem try first.
A US note (regardless of denomination) is 156x66 mm, or about 0.01 square meter. Let's start by laying them all flat, in a single one-bill layer, to keep things simple. Assuming we're going to burn $100 bills (to maximize our literal cash burn), that's about $10,000 per square meter or 20,000,000 square meters to equal $200B.
This works out to a circular disk of $100 bills about 2523 meters in radius.
Individual bills are thin. They'd burn pretty fast, once lit. If we light the middle of the circle and the flame front expands radially outward by 25 mm (about an inch) per second, that's enough to consume an entire bill (lengthwise) in 6 seconds. Sounds about right, based on how fast thin paper seems to burn. At that rate, it'll take 2523 meters / 0.025 meters/second ~= 100,000 seconds or about 1.15 days to burn the entire disk of flammable currency.
But I suspect that past a certain point, the expanding fire might be hot enough to start igniting things further ahead of the immediate flames, in which case the flame front would expand much faster. Also, you'd likely get some updrafts that would carry burning Benjamins further afield, which would start spot fires in other pars of the gigadollar disk some distance away, each one burning at a similar rate. Spot fires could sharply reduce the total time, easily a factor of 10 or more, especially if they started fairly early on. My Fermi-inspired guess is you're looking at "a few hours, maybe longer if the fire is extremely well-behaved, maybe less if it goes total chaos muppet", to torch things that way.
I don't have a good sense of whether making stacks (more to burn per area, but less area) makes things go faster, and that's a branch of material science I'm not super familiar with, so I'll leave it at that.
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@paco @davidgerard @briankrebs it definitely depends also on the sort of currency you burn too. Australian $ are all polymer, not paper. They probably give off noxious fumes when they burn
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@paco @davidgerard Depends if you burn them in parallel or not and it depends on the oxigen supply. If you would burn this as one big connected line of paper, you would burn something that would go 7800 times around the world, so that would be a roll almost a meter thick going around earth. If you would burn that in parallel, I am lacking imagination how long it would take.
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@paco @davidgerard However, for the fun of it, let us assume that a dollar bill takes 2 minutes to burn. Then burning once around the world would take 975 years!
So burning 7800 times that one after another would take 7.5 million years. So, to put that in perspective, if I can believe my understanding of Wikipedia, 7.5 million years ago Wolves were state of the art, and no-one talked about monkeys.
So yes, if you don't want to burn the money on a heap, it will be slow compared to OpenAI.
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@paco @davidgerard And yes, this was just a calculation on a lazy day and I may have made tons of little errors. Somewhen in the middle I had a version that confused minutes and days.
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@muellerwhh @paco clearly we'll need an empirical test
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I love how much faster my @OpenBSDAms vps is than my previous, Hetzner-hosted one. I wonder why that is? The previous one was in Finland, which is farther from London than Amsterdam, but surely not *that* far to be noticeably slower to respond.
But this is really great. I'm hosting my RSS reader (Miniflux) and it's just a joy to use when it's so snappy. Makes me want to selfhost more stuff. What services do y'all selfhost?
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@gosha no idea… that is indeed a little surprising. There lots is things being self-hosted. Mail, DNS, Nextcloud (and others like it), Gemini, etc.
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@gosha @OpenBSDAms nice! Also moved my self hosting ingress to OpenBSD Amsterdam last month! I’m currently just running my blog and matrix server.
I’ve got a funky setup but that probably goes with the territory 😅 https://blog.ianwwagner.com/overview-of-my-new-homelab-setup.html
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@gosha @OpenBSDAms Self-host all the things ! E-mail (openbsd smtpd, rspamd, dovecot), documents (seafile), caldav & carddav for contacts and events, restic for backups, instant messaging (xmpp & matrix). It's a joy!
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because of pricing discussion that pops up sometimes:
imagine a very barebones MNT Reform Next for like 600 EUR, which has the full cnc case, hinges, mainboard, left port board, display, 1 battery pack (of 2), mechanical keyboard, glass trackpad, side panels, and a CM5 processor module adapter, would that be interesting? the idea would be that you could:
- get started with a high quality, real OSHW laptop at a lower price
- add/upgrade parts at your own pace
- bring your own compute module
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sort of like this but of course with the missing bezels and trackpad :D
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@mntmn do you see a reform mainboard for framework 13 in the future?
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@mntmn @khm yeah, right, I'm too old-fashioned. You can also use two eyes on two screens.
Are coming to Berlin on 23rd?
https://2026.oshwa.org/schedule/
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@mntmn Definitely! I could see all of that room inside being used for a myriad of devices. SDR dongles come to mind or a hack RF board.
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First of all: yes, please and thank you.
Second: how long does a Reform Next last on one battery pack?
Third: are you sure you can produce enough to follow demand if this thing takes off?
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@mntmn sounds interesting. Can you turn it around, so what is stripped from current base model? The computer module, one battery pack, anything else?
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@rwv what i left out of the calculation (these could all be added in though as options): right-side port board (mainly additional USB and HDMI), second battery pack, intel wifi 6e card, speaker (that one's only a few dollars though)
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@mntmn I'd be more likely to move my existing modules between shells and it'd make it easy to right-size my daily carry if the swap is quick. Granted, I have a next on order already but I would be okay with reusing what I have if the Qualcomm chips eventually become an option. If i end up with a spare RK3588 at some point, it'd be ideal for a desktop build.
While I'm not a raspberry pi fan, having a diversified supply for compute is a great option.
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@mntmn neat idea; even more if range of compatible ram clocks would be broad. (i admit, i have no clue how does it work now)
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@mntmn interested for sure, been eyeing MNT products for a while and it would be a great way to get started.
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@mntmn Very very much. 600 euro is way more reasonable for my income to save up for and then get the remaining parts slowly while I save up more
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@mntmn That does sound enticing. I'd love to have a MNT laptop, but I can't justify the expense right now, as my current laptop is perfecly functional and I'm still saving for a new one when this one breaks (probably in a few years).
But at €600 I can probably squeeze in the expense and then gradually upgrade when needed.
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"would what be interesting?"
Yes.
As for "bringing your own compute module", it'd be neat if you built a laptop that's just an alternate case+cooler for tiny desktop PCs (mini-ITX boards, thin clients, Mac Mini, Optiplex Micro: etc).
It's not a very OSHW thing to do, but still a big middlefinger to Big Laptop.
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@khm @moses_izumi new smarc modules are very expensive afaik, is there a common source for cheap second hand ones?
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@mntmn I guess it's just about more options when buying? I think it sounds great, maybe keep the speakers but let the user buy with none, one or two batteri kit (0, 4 or 8 cells).
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You could strip out a few more things and keep it useful...
Ship without the battery cells, just the battery module, since one of the compelling features is that you can get cells off-the-shelf?
Without the CM5 module? Some folks have old mnt/reform modules collecting dust...
I recall you had a mnt/reform desktop design at one point; how feasible would the MNT Reform Next be to ship without keyboard, trackpad, monitor? With the possibility to add them later? An a la carte option?
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@vagrantc hmm yeah that's right. maybe the best idea would be to make a more detailed configurator that starts at the very low end
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@mntmn i remember asking myself : if i want to avoid to pay to much VAT, i should buy modules one by one. It could let me buy step by step and will be able to start using it at perhaps 50% of the price 😁
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@mntmn I think the biggest thing keeping people who love your machines from jumping in is the price. I was able to convince my lab to buy one for me but otherwise I wouldn't have been able to justify it. For 600 plus a CM5 I could have swung it
@mntmn while I don't mind spending premium on a premium product, a "starter" esition would be a fantastic concept. I think most of us spend money on different processors and other updates anyway, so having a base for lower starting cost is a good idea imho
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@mntmn @barebox @ailurux I got a bit curious about what is missing for @barebox' EFI GOP to show the OpenBSD installer, so I gave it a try in QEMU.
With a one-line fix now in barebox master, /dev/ttyC0 outputs to a framebuffer console on top of the barebox-provided GOP, but I don't know how to make it the installer's default.
The alternative that works out-of-the-box, however, is to use a simple-framebuffer node in the DT. Next release will contain documentation: https://github.com/barebox/barebox/blob/master/Documentation/user/booting-openbsd.rst
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Hello from OpenBSD.aarch64 booted by efi0: barebox rev 0x7ea0400
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@a3f @barebox @ailurux while i have your attention: we currently ship uboot on emmc with rk3588 devices. for development and testing, would it be possible to chainload barebox from uboot or uboot spl so that early adopters won't have to risk softbricking their system by erasing uboot on emmc? (rk3588 rom prioritizes emmc before sd card).
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@mntmn @barebox @ailurux Sure, barebox (network) booting itself is common for development.
U-Boot is normally unable to parse its BootROM-mandated file format (so it can't chainload itself or a regular barebox image), but barebox can generate an extra Linux- kernel-look-alike image that is bootable e.g. with U-Boot's booti command: https://fosstodon.org/@barebox/115980830870695504
Caveat: Only barebox chainloading barebox is regularly tested. U-Boot may modify global resources (e.g. clock tree) in an unexpected manner.
in reply to »This has always been possible.
For chainloading barebox from other bootloaders, CONFIG_BOARD_GENERIC_DT generates an extra barebox image that doesn't embed any device tree, but looks identical to a Linux kernel and thus can be booted like one from many bootloaders, including U-Boot.
CONFIG_BOARD_GENERIC_FIT takes it a step further and includes it alongside all enabled DTs, so you can target dozens of SoCs and hundreds of boards at once.
Here's the relevant doc: https://www.barebox.org/doc/latest/user/barebox.html#starting-barebox
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@mntmn @barebox @ailurux It usually works though as barebox ports most drivers from Linux, but corner cases can happen.
What soft-bricking concern do you have? Is it about the bootloader update in the field (this is possible on RK3588 in a power-fail safe manner!) or is it about the updated bootloader behaving unexpectedly?
If it's the latter, an unexpectedly behaving chainloaded bootloader would still require disassembly to access the serial console, so I don't see the chainloading advantage?
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@a3f @barebox @ailurux simply that our build of barebox isn't as stable as uboot yet for rk3588. there can be crashes when trying to load linux depending on the connected usb hardware or hdmi for example. but i should set it up so it will always prefer sd cards so we can have a rescue image for sd cards that people could use to recover.
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@mntmn @barebox @ailurux Do the crashes occur during barebox runtime or during kernel startup? In any case, it would be good to know about it upstream.
But yes, I see the utility of U-Boot checking the SD-Card and then loading barebox from eMMC (for now.. ;)
By the way, you (or @josch) may be interested in https://lore.kernel.org/barebox/20260428132811.3691086-1-eagle.alexander923@gmail.com as that might allow you to reuse your existing extlinux.conf setup with barebox as well.
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Time for a new #introduction post. Hello! My name is Gosha, and I'm a middle aged dude living in London with my partner and our daughter. My day job is in software building, and I'm interested in many topics, including photography, music, cycling, travel, etc. These days I'm mostly trying to (re)discover new layers of meaning, and to learn to live life as intentionally as I can, making many mistakes in the process.
Here's a picture of my daughter and I taken by my partner, @Tingyi 
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@hi Aw thank you We had another kid since this intro was written!
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id probably focus first on having the lowest-friction alternative(s) with the most feature parity ready to go with an explanation of how to do so - people are way less likely to be willing to make a change without a known, solid alternative that doesn't seem like the world's biggest pain to switch to
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today @holo_memory and i launched 3 new MNT Pocket Reform related products on the shop, check them out:
- Pocket Reform Mainboard 2.0 with lots of little goodies incl. USB-C DisplayPort alt-mode and closed-case debugging via USB-C https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-pocket-reform-mainboard-2-0
- the improved Pocket Keyboard PCB 2.0 with a "bring your own switches" option and new browns (tactile) switches option https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-pocket-reform-keyboard-pcb-2-0
- Pocket Keyboard USB-C adapter (for recovery/programming or standalone use) https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-pocket-reform-keyboard-usb-c-adapter
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so cool! will this go into all unshipped pockets or just ones ordered now?
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@lislegaard @holo_memory good question which i'm not perfectly prepared for today, other than there are cutoff dates in the backlog that we'll know better in the coming days, depending on stock levels of the previous versions
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@mntmn @holo_memory Oh whoa I didn't realize these were all so close to being ready! :D
Now to decide if I want to get super custom with the keyboard switches...
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doing some MNT Reform Next production part checks, esp. cables and some PCBs... can't believe it's starting to come together after those years
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@mntmn super fascinating to follow!
Is there or will there be an option for a mobile LTE/5G modem for the MNT Reform Next? Sorry in case it's already answered and I missed it somehow 🫣
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@mntmn this is exciting! My intent has been to buy a Reform Next with the Quasar module when it's available. Do you have advice on how to time that? Should I order a current gen Next and the module separately, or are you planning to eventually do a crowd supply for the two together?
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@ryanprior i recommend to order the current gen next first, the quasar will take a while to launch+ship (could be 5-6 months)
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@mntmn any chance I could work for you doing some assembly and testing? You know the climate up here in the nordics puts unique stress on this kind of stuff and uh… No, I’m just making stuff up, I just want one 😊 Looks awesome!
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@mrmasterkeyboard looks good. What are you going for?
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@felipe well, it's for the anti-AI VIm fork I work on. Me and Reiddragon from the IRC channel who helps to maintain EVi decided someone should make a logo for EVi for the .desktop files and stuff. I used an SVG of the VIm logo and took it apart and regrouped in it Inkscape and did made changes to it to turn it into something new!
If things go well, you should see it at https://codeberg.org/evi-editor/evi eventually or maybe in a different form than you see here.
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I've added easily customizable color theme support to Cucumber. Simply edit the settings.ini file on the SD card and define your color theme!
This LCD doesn't capture well on camera, but here's the Solarized "dark" theme ported over.
More details are on the project page: https://github.com/TangentDelta/cardputer-uxn
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@Blender/116482997785333001
And related to this, #Blender already has Claude slop commits.
It's all fucked, Blender went dark.
https://github.com/blender/blender/commit/336b5d0de12a438614846961b7961bbf35399eb3
https://github.com/blender/blender/commit/79e02e1405a98884cc8fd5505cc54df2c2dc5d21
https://github.com/blender/blender/commit/7ee94c067cf71845727672ed77dc25f088cd5b32
Not to mention one user has specifically admitted to using AI code review for commits that are in Blender's codebase.
https://github.com/blender/blender/commit/b80b3e040dd3ac979e97540b4bb0f18a1c5ad021
https://github.com/blender/blender/commit/eaadb0c3043288d78b897b15bcc8d336c749de15
#NoAI #FuckAI #AntiAI #Tech #Technology #Animation #3DAnimation #Claude
zuggamasta boostedWelcome Anthropic as a Corporate Patron sponsor of the Blender Foundation’s Development Fund! This support will be dedicated towards general Blender core development. More details at https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/
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@DBG3D @tonroosendaal Unfortunately, Ton doesn't control the Blender Foundation anymore it seems.
https://www.blender.org/press/blender-foundation-announces-new-board-and-executive-director/
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I know, but I think he reserved a special status in it.
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@DBG3D @tonroosendaal Yeah, it seems like he is on the Supervisory board?
In that case, this was probably ran past him and he approved it or something...
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I hope he was not involved and is a decision of the new board.
If he was it will be a terrible disappointment.
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my goal for this post is now to ratio THE FUCK out of the blender
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@mrmasterkeyboard it is done 97/92 boosts.
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@mrmasterkeyboard If you stop using products which were implemented with the help of AI you probably won't be able to use any software at all.
Even the policy for the Linux kernel allows the usage of AI tools: https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-maintainers-finalize-ai-policy-for-linux-kernel-developers/.
I'm saying that as someone who does not use and is against generative AI.
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@chikl I get that, sometimes we have to make do. The main point here to call out the Blender Foundation and have them do something. The same should be done elsewhere.
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So you "called out" this Free Software that you presumably use... what are you going to say to them exactly?
"I am deeply troubled that you guys might have more time with your families or sleeping if you use coding assists!", or "Hell no I am not going to write that code manually and contribute it. I just want to see you suffering doing it manually."
"Somebody used AI to review a contribution they didn't even ask for? String 'em up!"
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@hopeless @chikl Don’t argue with me over this. AI is a fascist tech, AI companies are fascist companies, Blender took money from them. They rely on stealing the work of millions of people to operate which is highly unethical and immoral to do so.
If they want more time to do other things, don’t constantly spend all of your time contributing to things. Take a break. It seems you forgot that we still have free will.
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> Don’t argue with me over this.
"AI is fascist tech"
"fascist companies"
"stealing"
"unethical"
"immoral"
If you want to argue, you have to produce argumentation, not slogans.
Github is mainly full of liberally-licensed software (that's why the sources are just sitting there) with licenses that don't disallow AI use for learning.
Anyway have a nice day.
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[@mrmasterkeyboard - open-source software and corporate sponsorship should be an oxymoron. I wish we lived in a world where making cool computer software was just supported by the public and free of the clutches of MEGACORPS
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@mrmasterkeyboard fuck fuck fuck it's exhausting.
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@f4grx I'm sick of it too, but the only way forward is resistance and complaining.
My advice to everyone, not only you, would be these words.
"What ever happens next, do not comply."
Fighting is the only way out.
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@mrmasterkeyboard I WILL FUCKING NEVER COMPLY
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@f4grx Compliance is to back down to fascist tech, companies and governments. Never will we back down, we will fight until we die and we will do so relentlessly.
FUCK ALL FASCISTS!!!
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@mrmasterkeyboard (I managed to build evi without any problem, using that starting from now, thank you so much)
Good job on the rebranding, this is not so easy.
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@f4grx Thanks, but I also couldn't do it with out the help of @ reiddragon @fedi.catto.garden and @ dreamos82 @mastodon.world who have been helping me with EVi since its beginning and are the other 2 maintainers of the project.
> the only way forward is resistance and complaining
Also consider forking and writing own (possibly simpler) software with natural intelligence in use 
Remember the history of XFree86:
- it was a widely used display server on the x86 machines
- main dev decided to change the license, without asking the rest of the community
- People became angry and the display server was forked
- XFree86 died and fork became the #1 display server on the x86 
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@mrmasterkeyboard @f4grx Yes, of course, but I think if people really need non-slop opensource 3D modelling software, then the contributors will participate in such project, sooner or later.
As we speak in Russia: "It is not a gods who make the pots" (Не боги горшки обжигают) — which means that usual people could make something, even if it looks like not an easy thing — it is not required to be a genius with tons of degrees and scientific papers to make something.
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> Project Anchorage (anti-slop initiative on Codeberg), and many more.)
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@evgandr @f4grx Sure! There's not much on the org other than mostly empty stuff, I've been looking for more peeps to recruit on especially after a friend disappeared out of nowhere.
https://codeberg.org/ProjectAnchorage
Also, @projectanchorage
So far, I've been working on Echium... which originally would have been a from scratch kernel but I've deciding using an old UNIX or BSD kernel and forking that would be better for it.
@mrmasterkeyboard although your concern is warranted I think it’s exaggerated to say that blender went dark because they are using AI for assistance. The commits you mentioned are not solely commuted buy AI rather have human supervision. Or am I wrong?
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People seem unable to help themselves. Terrible #AISlop is ending up everywhere, like nano plastics are polluting our world.
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@mrmasterkeyboard Dear @tonroosendaal , please reconsider. The machine learning industry is highly toxic to global society, it's built on mass approproation of intellectual property. I think ends don't justify the means. Please don't taint the labor of love with this.
Thank you for giving us Blender.
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@mrmasterkeyboard at least they get some money. I don't think the slop commits have to do with this news, that's more like the decisions of the developers by themselves.
@mrmasterkeyboard i payed when there was a crowdfunding happening to make sure the blender code would be released as free software, in the early 2000's iirc. can i now get my money back...? ;-P
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@mrmasterkeyboard God damn. Imagine having to debug AI slop in C++ of all things! That way lies madness.
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I don't get all the hype, I've been a prompting engineer for 40 years!
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I got tired of losing my own reference photos, and I really didn’t want to lock them all in the cloud
So I built Sortie! A local-first gallery manager ദ്ദി(˵ •̀ ᴗ - ˵ ) ✧ Pinterest-style layout, natural language search, tons of filters, and you can pull new images from Pinterest without an account and without ads.
Free on Windows / macOS / Linux: https://nighten.itch.io/sortie
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@NIGHTEN Oh this looks so useful!!
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@NIGHTEN don't use genAI please 😞
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The app doesn't use any at runtime, but feel free to skip this one if that doesn't sit right with you
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@NIGHTEN you don't consider Sortie to be your art?
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@spiralhalo No not really! Its value is mostly in whether it’s useful or not, if it meets the spec; which is really the opposite of how I see my art.
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Apple in 2007: here’s 400 videos playing at the same time, with interactive search and real-time animations (via https://t.me/ilyabirman_channel/12350)
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@nikitonsky Yeah. Software wise it went all to shit. Can’t put my finger on it but I’d say cost cutting for LLM gains
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@nikitonsky best part: the fastest supercomputer of this time is not so much faster than actual hardware on our desktops. 😌
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@nikitonsky faster on my MB Pro 2021 M1, but it's Liquid Ass slowing stuff down and it really needs to be killed with fire
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This is the difference between treating your software as a key competitive advantage (Jobs era) vs. treating it as a cost center to be minimized (Cook era).
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@nikitonsky Yep. I just grabbed an M4 Mac again so I could go back to Sequoia. I can't do anymore Tahoe at this point. This kinds of crap is everywhere in Tahoe.
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@nikitonsky @siracusa I’m not a big “What would Steve do?” guy (in part because he implored us not to be), but he would definitely have been the human shield to protect us from Tahoe if that’s what it took. Such a shame.
Putting all my faith in Ternus & Lemay for a rapid response to the worst of this nonsense.
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@nikitonsky And people keep asking me why I keep going back to older frameworks (UIKit, Core Data, etc.). You could get real performance while doing amazing things with those frameworks while the modern SwiftUI List slows to a crawl after 100-200 items for mysterious reasons.
And that was before Liquid Glass.
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@nikitonsky The 2007 Seadragon demo was mind blowing, and it went away and never came back.
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@nikitonsky I’ve the 17 pro iPhone and very frequently I’ll open settings.app and the menu icons will take a second to fill. What the hell.
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@nikitonsky Resizing the windows of some of the new Tahoe apps (Contacts, Phone, Messages, etc.) is slow and drops frames on my 14” M1 MacBook Pro. Sure, it’s not brand new anymore, but it’s still faster than *every Intel Mac ever made*. Come on!
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The final panel of the How's It Going Little Man meme showing a crudely drawn human with circular glasses looking down with sad eyes and a grimace as the caption reads "Jesus fucking christ" but with the U, C, and K replaced with asterisks. I couldn't find the uncensored version.
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@nikitonsky For an even stronger effect: open the custom color popover, and *slide* the slider. This creates dozen of color updates, which are queued, and so the preview icons will keep changing colors for *minutes *
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@nikitonsky I'm all for dunking on Apple but "loading 40 icons is much harder to do than playing 400 videos" is just one of those things that seem crazy from a "normal person perspective" but make perfect sense from the inside
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@valpackett I am from the industry and no, it doesn’t sound all that crazy. I am familiar with the excuses people usually make about those kind of things, but no, if anyone really wanted and cared, that shit would work in less than 1 frame on 120 Hz display. Besides, you don’t even need to load 40 icons. They are already loaded!
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@nikitonsky I regularly marvel at having the fastest phone Apple has ever made and having to wait as Home Screen icons composite. Such a waste.
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@nikitonsky It looks impressive but I can see it's really just 40 long looping gifs tiled 10 times onto primitives. It wouldn't be terribly difficult to do this kind of thing on modern hardware. That would require passion and dedication to a craft but I can see that the modern OS is not living it's best life.
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@Smohc_Stahc Nobody says we can’t do it anymore. The problem is we are not doing. We can, but we don’t
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@nikitonsky like this was fucking 2007 where real people still had XP on their machines...
this was such a massive "guys, computers can also look really cool you know"
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This feels wise for the #EU:
“We don't need a "European [add US social media platform]" – that would be just a different kind of centralised trap – we need a commitment to open protocols for our digital infrastructure. By moving our digital hangouts and town squares to decentralised protocols we ensure that no single entity – be it either governments and/or a volatile billionaires – can pull the plug on our democratic discourse and… 🧵 1/2
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Worth consideration with or without the European theme, of course.
The concluding sentence in bold:
> "The Future of Europe and the Web is Federated. Are you ready to join the it?"
I hope increasingly more people are ready to join the it.
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@Starfia @tchambers already waiting for the Canadians to join the EU :)
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Rather a different question. (Not to mention a bit of a geographical and nomenclatural dilemma.)
Why Canadians?
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@Starfia in the light of recent politics in the US, and culturally a good match anyway ("thank you for not shooting me" :)
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top: bus-and-tag to ESCON; bottom: IBM 3172 LAN Channel Station
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@wec huh, which 3172 model is it? i'm a bit curious about the B&T card and how they are driving it
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@wec i'm wondering how similar the B&T card is to the one that is paired with the P/370 (the channel card option).
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@wec how different are the capabilities of the mainframe side ports of the cards of the various PC side bus interfaces?
E.G. how different are the various B&T cards; ISA, MCA, vs PCI?
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@wec interesting. i wonder if it would be possible to modify the software running on the PS/2 side to talk to some 370 peripherals (tape unit controller, etc)
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@wec do you need the 370 or 390 CPU card to do that?
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I'm not sure whether that is bigger than the DEC NIA10 used in the DECsystem-10 and DECSYSTEM-20 (PDP-10 KL10 CPU), but it's much prettier. The NIA was an ugly box that mounted inside the cabinet (but not traditional rack-mount), cabled to modules that installed in the I/O backplane in place of two RH20 channels. It had an AUI interface, usually to a DEC H4000 vampire tap transceiver.
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@wec does it support 3 Mb/s coax, like the DELNI?
When initially wiring the Caltech CS department for Ethernet, they sent a hapless, small undergraduate through the ceilings and crawl spaces dragging heavy coax behind him. Pretty sure at the time, no asbestos remediation had been done or contemplated.
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Since we moved from city to rural land, to a house where the bathroom and kitchen are outside, my boy observed: “This year there are way more full moons.”
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/me: was you day productive?
/also_me: define productive!
#OpenBSD #WindowMaker #DockApps #sndiod
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@joel ooh, what's that mixer? The only dock-app I run in fluxbox is wmnet(1) to graph network traffic. I used to have a couple other,s (volume and something) but found I never used them favoring keyboard-driven stuff, so I just stopped invoking them to free up resources.
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@gumnos it’s the modified Mixer.app that I posted yesterday. It’s not 100% perfect but it seems to work. I also use keybindings to do things. But I like to keep an eye on current settings.
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This is so cool. For their graduate thesis, writer & crafter, Alanna Okun made a game about knitting and hand knitted an arcade console to put it in.
The game: https://alannabean.itch.io/loose-ends
More info: http://www.alannaokun.xyz/
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Been playing with the Acme editor from #plan9port. Very much out of my comfort zone (vi-like editors) but so far I quite like it. My goal is to install #9front on my old Thinkpad T430 and use it for writing in my bedroom once I've properly gotten to grips with the editor. Seems like a solid choice of OS for reducing distractions and I find a lot of the ideas behind #plan9 really appealing.
General use daily driver is – and will remain – #openbsd, of course.
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Some folks prefer the trackpoint over everything so much that I'm wondering if I'm missing a TrackPoint-enjoyment gene, like folks who can't smell asparagus. 😂
I do prefer it to the trackpad for incidental use, only because it's harder to trigger accidentally.
But yeah, the trackball on the MNT Reform made me swoon with nostalgic ecstacy. 🤣
I'd buy one just for that if I had the dough.
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@afb How did you do for you? I looked at Acme a bit and it seems to use the mouse intensely. i'm mainly a Vim user myself and what I like about it is the fact I don't need a mouse. I like keyboard centric approach because the switching between mouse and keyboard tires my brain fast.
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@irrlicht Yeah it's taking some getting used to. Having three buttons plus the trackpoint on my ThinkPad is good, optical USB mouse feels a bit clunky. I'm barely moving my hands with the trackpoint so it feels like much less of a context switch.
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@hi 0.94 gb? Since when?
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I think it could probably be a fork. Use the groovy underpinnings but re-work the GUI.
Or just develop cool TUIs for use with vt(1)???
Watching experienced users on YT somewhat fumble with all of the complex mouse movements is a little painful, but I'm trying to see it for what it is: an alternative, experimental OS, and learn from the process of playing with it.
I try not to boot into my 9front vm unless I have a real mouse with me. It's just too annoying with the trackpad or touchpoint. XD
Especially without working palm recognition, woof!
But in all, it feels like it's potentially much more flexible and malleable than Linux, and you could probably do a lot to modify it without even really breaking a sweat.
It's a far cry from the my-way-or-the-highway attitudes from the systemd and Gnome guys.
(I mean, in fairness, if you complain to the 9front devs about the GUI being weird, or different, or whatever, they're likely to tell you to blow it out your ear, but the system itself isn't trying to force you to use it a certain way XD )
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keyboard-driven mouse works better if you have diagonals too, so I recommend nethack keys (vi + y/u/b/n for diagonals 😆)
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Are you sure you want
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“but how would you know what the IP address was, grandad?”
“well, that’s the thing, it didn’t have one.”
“oh, so how would you update the firmware then?”
“it had none. it was just a tea kettle.”
“woah.”
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@SecureOwl The philosophical question of the future that will take over that well worn trope about trees falling in woods:
"If something/someone has not been assigned an IP address does it truly exist?"
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🆕 EU Longest Train Journey 🆕
Kemijärvi 🇫🇮 - Lagos 🇵🇹
🦅 Geodesic: 4088.33km
🛤️ Route-km: 6251.5km
⏱️Trip time: 87 hours 29 minutes
🚆Trains: 16
💶 Cost: around €400, with Interrail
All mapped and explained here 👇
https://eulongesttrainjourney.jonworth.eu
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Map of the longest train journey in the EU
Guess leaving the winter tires on the car for a bit longer was the right decision
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Photo of an apartment block covered by thick, fluffy snow taken from a balcony. The railing on the balcony has a few centimeters of snow build up as well
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@hi apparently it really likes us and hates most of the south/west 😅
Rate my counterculture* computer corner
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Prominent ultrawide monitor takes up the most part of a standing desk, its orange-accented stand gives a splash of color and goes well with the Keychron mechanical keyboard's orange accented keys.
There is a large deskmat with blue geometric patterns under the keyboard.
There is a tiny computer tucked away in the corner behind the screen. It has no top but a large passive copper heatsink protrudes from the inside of the case that looks like the wireframe of an upside-down cone.
In the corner of the house there are various boxes and tools stacked on top of each other in front of a large glass windowpane overlooking the grassy outdoors.
There is a wooden shelf behind a desk even more stacked with various tools and electronics components
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*the computer is passively cooled and fully powered off of solar. It is actually repurposed from the components of my first homelab build (cca 2021), it sports a 8-core/16 thread Ryzen 5 and 64GB(!!) of DDR4 ECC RAM which I did not dare to look up what you'd have to pay for today (I got the two 32G modules around 200€ each, a bit pricy even then, as these are server/workstation-grade sticks).
By turning off PBO ("turbo") I still get plenty of perf out of the CPU (~10K multi-core Geekbench 6) while making sure the passive copper heatsink doesn't break a sweat. This also helps keep peak power draw at bay (65W measured absolute peak), which meant that I could power the whole thing off a 80W wide-input PicoPSU and completely avoid the AC power brick — it is directly hooked into my 24V battery pack via the solar charger. I am in fact also replacing the (odd, 19V) power brick of the monitor with a similar setup using a voltage regulator.
So sustainable efficiency, 🖕 massive data centers.
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@flaki I would never even have thought to run a Ryzen system that way. My current desktop has two CPU fans, a fan on the GPU, one on the PSU, and four on the case!
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@duncan_bayne tbf this is a 5750GE with a 35W target TDP, this APU is intended for stuff like those Lenovo miniPCs :)
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A new UNIX snapshot from 1977 to be released soon!!!
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We've recovered another UNIX distribution that hasn't been seen in almost 50 years!
This is UNIX Program Generic Issue 3 from 1977-04-12. It descends from V6 and evolved into System III. We thought it didn't survive, but it turned up in some tapes @bitsavers read yesterday!
You can run it in SIMH with scripts I wrote, browse the sources in the Unix Tree (thanks Warren!) or from a tar, or read the Program Generic documentation (thanks Matt!).
https://www.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2026-April/033605.html
#unix #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing
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UNIX evolution tree highlighting UNIX Program Generic Issue 3.
From page 32 of "A Statistical Examination of The Evolution of the UNIX System" by Shamim Sharifuddin Pirzada, September 1988, PhD thesis, Imperial College London.
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/Theses/Shamim_Sharfuddin_Pirzada-1988-PhD-Thesis.pdf
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On the topic of software enshittification and AI upsell: I'm used to Chrome doing vile Google stuff, I'm used to stupid paid bookmarks in Firefox, but I'm scared by what Firefox has became. I run Debian-oldstable, OpenBSD and NetBSD, and in all of them Firefox has clickbait links in new tabs and "AI search" and the likes. The one shipped with Debian also spooked me with "Chat with this tab". How did we end up here 🥲
Edit: yes, by all means, use good forks, and encourage others to use good forks, but don't forget that most people won't use a fork, and thus it is important to keep pushing for upstream to be good and ethical
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@nina_kali_nina The thing is, despite all of that, Firefox is still the best browser. That's honestly the saddest part of all. Everything else has gotten _so much worse_ that *being able to disable AI integration* (which you can do in Firefox) is somehow the best option.
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@chiraag@mastodon.online @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt there is also an option called firefox forks
@librewolf@chaos.social being the most based of them
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@witix @chiraag @librewolf nod nod, I'm mostly on LibreWolf myself, but it requires more than two clicks to install on obscure systems, so I felt like installing Firefox to look up a thing is not going to hurt me much. I was wrong lol
But also, if IT folks are out of options, everyone else is cooked, getting used to whatever google gives them as a browser :(
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@feeblu @librewolf @chiraag @witix on some OSes, yes. It is still made mostly by a single person, and very niche.
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@nina_kali_nina @feeblu @librewolf @chiraag @witix At least LibreWolf offers ARM 64 Linux builds that run on this Raspberry Pi 5 and my PinePhones.
As, of course do Vivaldi and Firefox.
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@nina_kali_nina I've switched from stock Firefox to Zen on desktop and F-droid Fennec on Android. All the old perks of Firefox, without ads and AI-shit.
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@hi there's a NetBSD port as well. But it takes a bit of effort to build from sources; I don't think there are binaries just yet. It is still quite upsetting that upstream is not great
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@lanodan 🤔 is it still alright?
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@lanodan @nina_kali_nina historically there have port maintainers doing the needed fixups to keep @WebKitGTK working on the BSDs, and at some point we were even getting some patches upstreamed—but not lately, despite me trying to have those reviewed and applied. I think the review process felt a bit like a drag at times, and WebKit can be slow to work with given that it's a big codebase. Sometimes I do a small sweep of the ports trees to try and pick “upstreamable” fixes, but sadly my spare time for those things is limited. We could use a BSD person helping out with this.
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@lanodan @nina_kali_nina also, sure I can install and use BSDs, but I need Linux for work and it wouldn't be practical for me to even dual boot my buildbox, and last time I tried with qemu things were a bit clunky and one couldn't test hardware acceleration. Sorry.
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@lanodan @nina_kali_nina maybe no user-facing AI integration, but some webkit developers are using AI assisted tooling. So if you want to avoid that as well, you will have to pick another web engine...
I think that leaves NetSurf, maybe Dillo and Servo? Probably a much larger downgrade than replacing Linux with BSD, actually?
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@nina_kali_nina I think if foundations and non-profits apply standard growth models that apply to businesses, which I think is the non-evil - at least initially - justification, that is why. It can be slow and steady or faster and enshittified. Although, that's not tacit approval on my part, and I think there is a grey area in the middle, & exceptions, but "it works. How can we maintain/grow/promote" is how it starts.
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@nina_kali_nina At least Firefox has now added a kill switch: https://www.malwarebytes.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/02/Firefox_settings.png
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@nina_kali_nina There is an option in Firefox to make new windows and tabs simply empty. It's in about:preferences > Home > New windows and tabs.I haven't seen sponsored links or whatever in years.
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@rhialto believe me or not, I know about this option. :) but 99% of installs are by people who will never ever find it, I bet
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@nina_kali_nina @rhialto yeah I figured it was just a new part of everything sucking and only went looking after realizing people walking by my desk might not realize it was enshittification stuff and think i was actually interested in looking at click bait garbage headlines and pictures of trump
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A progress report on my "Migrate from MacBook to Net?Open?BSD" mini-project.
Are we there yet? No. Were important lessons learned? Yes!
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@nina_kali_nina First time I've heard of PowerTab, is it any good? Only thing I've ever used is Guitar Pro.
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@woe2you I haven't used it before this day; I've been using TuxGuitar, but I gave up on making it work under NetBSD. It seems PowerTab is legit, but I couldn't open some gp3-gp5 files with it, unfortunately.
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@nina_kali_nina Thanks for taking the time to answer this tangent for me, I know it wasn't your main focus.
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@woe2you Ah, no probs! Note that neither Tux Guitar nor PowerTab use GuitarPro's "Real Sound Engine", so they sound as MIDI as your MIDI sequencer/soundfont.
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@nina_kali_nina I'm trying to get back into guitar after many years, I remember when GP was pure MIDI so that's no downside.
A-ha one: choosing a laptop based on what operating system you want to run on it is not wrong.
Reasoning: I got so used to Linux running on most, if not all, laptops that "oh, NetBSD doesn't support this hardware" made me feel feelings.
The feelings were familiar, because I've been there with Linux some ten+ years ago.
Reflecting on those feelings, I noticed that people generally have no issue with buying a specific subset of laptop models if they plan to run Mac OS, or specific make of phones if they intend to run Graphene OS and such. If this is fine, then picking laptop specs for NetBSD is a given. If anything, there are more devices that can run NetBSD than there are devices that can run Mac OS.
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Over the last 2 years I have bought 1 asus gaming laptop, 1asus gaming desktop, and then last week I bought an acer 14" laptop for my day tripper computer.
The first thing I did each and everytime when I got them home was install Linux and remove any traces of microslop.
All 3 of them work flawlessly.
My old laptop that just died had been running Linux Mint since 2012.
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@nina_kali_nina I've never used it but isn't NetBSD the one with the slogan "of course it runs NetBSD"? I guess that dates from an era with a lot more diversity of processors and fewer cameras, power controllers, track pads, wireless cards that need drivers
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@lydiafacts "of course it runs NetBSD" is generally true. I run NetBSD on my Macintosh Classic II. But there's a world of difference between "I have ksh" and "latest Firefox can play 4K video at 60 fps over 5GHz WiFi"
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@nina_kali_nina and I guess more generally, it supports a diversity of the kind of hardware you have in a server or a router than what you have in a typical laptop
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🍁 [A-ha two: it is important to see beyond the "project branding"
A few days ago I got really frustrated by hardware virtualisation crashing the guest OS while running under NetBSD. "Oh COME ON, the NetBSD project should've done a better job at implementing their hypervisor; I have no issues whatsoever with KVM under Linux on the same laptop", I thought at first.
And then I ended up on a homepage of nvmm, NetBSD's hypervisor. It reads:
> Six months ago, I told myself I would write a small hypervisor for an old x86 AMD CPU I had. Just to learn more about virtualization, and see how far I could go alone on my spare time.
So, yeah, it is provided by "The NetBSD project", but is mostly results of a work of a single person.
And this changes everything, it's not "yikes, such a buggy thing, this corporation could've done better", it's "wow this person is legendary, I sure can work around my own limitations to leverage the results of their work, lots of respect".
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A quick summary of the OSes I have on my laptop now, as a checklist:
-- Debian 12 "Bookworm"
[+] Graphical desktop (XFCE my beloved)
[+] WiFi
[+] Accelerated video (smooth scrolling and 60fps video)
[+] Graphics software (Krita, GNU IMP)
[+] Music software - DAW (LMMS)
[+] Music software - guitar (TuxGuitar, PowerTab)
[+] Emulation (can run DOS 1.0-Windows 10, very fast)
[+] Wine
Very stable, can do everything I need.
-- OpenBSD 7.9
[+] Desktop
[+] WiFi
[+] Accelerated video
[+] Krita, graphic tablet support
[+] LMMS
[ ] No guitar soft :(
[±] No Windows emulation beyond DosBox
[ ] No wine
-- NetBSD 11
"-" means unstable to the point of being unusable
[+] Desktop - the same XFCE
[±] WiFi
[ ] Accelerated video
[+] Krita
[+] LMMS
[-] Guitar soft
[±] Emulation (either unstable or slow)
[±] Wine (unstable)
So far, OpenBSD has been the most stable of the three, but it is impossible to make emulation working in it. NetBSD is promising, and it is a rewarding learning experience, but I can't daily-drive it yet
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Some people actually asked me: "Hold on, why won't you just use Debian, if everything works on it?"
I'm migrating from MacOS 14, the latest MacOS without AI. It is still receiving updates, and it probably will be fine/safe to use for another year. If the push comes to shove, I can update to MacOS 15 and get one extra year of support of software that is generally pre-genAI.
Debian Bookworm, the latest pre-major-genAI release, will get its last major update in June 2026, and will stop receiving LTS in June 2028.
In other words, if my reason for this move is "according to who there is no level of exposure to genai", then swapping from MacOS to Debian doesn't actually give me more time before the support for the last "safe-ish" version is dropped.
So, might as well bite the bullet now and go to BSDs. And it is increasingly looking like I might be able to get away with it without losing anything important to me in terms of computer functionality.
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@nina_kali_nina I like how you are approaching this - I'm on a similar path...Debian 13 is comfortable, I don't have to abandon it to plan a transition to the BSD's (in my case, I'm looking at NetBSD for the most part right now)
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@scott yep, I hold hopes for NetBSD, too. From what I read, FreeBSD might be quite usable in my situation, and it seems to be less gung-ho on AI than Linux
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@nina_kali_nina NetBSD appeal deeply to me because it's so small, and the "small town" size you noted in relation to NVMM where it's people contributing, not huge corpos.
The flip side for me is like 85% or more of BSD users are on FreeBSD - it would probably be a _lot_ easier daily driving in that space, I suspect.
The idea of rolling up my sleeves and actually contributing a port when needed to NetBSD is also tantalizing tho - maybe I don't need everything handed to me in a package.
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@scott FreeBSD, unfortunately, explicitly allows AI slop. This, and they seem to support Xlibre, which I consider a bad move. Otherwise it'd be a no-brainer.
Every now and then I think I should just move to Potato[1] or disconnect from the internet forever and just keep using what I always used, so I can stop being worried about software vulnerabilities affecting me.
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@nina_kali_nina @scott Upvote on Potato. Looks like Porporo is coming along nicely. (👋 @neauoire)
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@nina_kali_nina @scott You know that there is still (Gentoo) Hurd.. 😉
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@nina_kali_nina Why no FreeBSD?
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@metalmartijn I'd ditch Debian for an old FreeBSD. Current FreeBSD explicitly allows AI-generated contributions.
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@nina_kali_nina According to open-slopware, OpenBSD has a permissive AI policy. It's getting very hard to find an untainted OS. :(
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@Retrograde my understanding is that OpenBSD doesn't have a permissive AI policy, but they do accept upstream patches made with AI (tmux) or AI-assisted bug reports (librcypto and kernel).
In this aspect, NetBSD is far better, yes.
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@nina_kali_nina wait, is there something that passed me? What are you talking about Debian and ai?
I mean don't really follow Debian that closely because I use kubuntu with some extra repos so I don't have to use snap, but Debian going some involuntary ai use path would be something I think I would have heard about.
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@mortentorten First, Linux kernel itself has permissive AI policy. Second, systemd has permissive AI policy. Major libraries, like chardet, are being completely slopcoded, while major software projects like Python or LLVM have permissive AI policies. Debian is based on all of them. On top of that, they have debian-ai/deeplearning team (with AI-generated logos) that provides things like python-openai and DebGPT - "General Purpose Terminal LLM Tool with Some Debian-Specific Design" - https://salsa.debian.org/deeplearning-team/debgpt
Trixie comes with all these "improvements", Bookworm was spared.
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@nina_kali_nina apparently alpine is strictly no-ai; but again its musl-based so using 3rd party precompiled software is going to be annoying without virtualization.
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@zardoz03 there are others, more vocal, but it doesn't matter enough because the kernel and systemd are tainted
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A friend just asked me a few more questions about the reasons I decided to try and move to *BSD, given that these systems are, generally, far less polished than Linux, and do not support as many packages/programs. I vaguely gestured at the situatuion with genAI/LLM uprooting the trust in the Linux kernel, core system components and so on. She wasn't convinced; AI is everywhere these days, and avoiding it is a lot like trying to avoid other unethical things: very hard and probably will affect your quality of life.
And I get it. The situation is actually quite similar with "just install Linux": running Windows is bad, and for many people, moving to Linux (or BSD) is impossible. But there are _also_ many people who don't know they could run Linux - sometimes with more comfort than their obsolete and buggy Windows.
So I want to try and run *BSD and share how it feels, and maybe this way I could remove a few roadblocks for others. Ultimately, I just want to feel better about my computing habits.
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@nina_kali_nina I wish you luck. Since moving my servers to FreeBSD I’ve been much happier. For desktop/laptop it will really matter a lot what specific hardware you use. The community has been super helpful too when I’ve had questions. If it helps, some of my notes: https://markmcb.com/freebsd/vs_linux/
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Just as an FYI, FreeBSD and MidnightBSD are pro-slop, OpenBSD contains slop in base (via tmux) and has no anti-LLM policy, and NetBSD's anti-LLM policy is effectively a sham allowing them to commit LLM generated content at will.
"Code generated by a large language model or similar technology, such as GitHub/Microsoft's Copilot, OpenAI's ChatGPT, or Facebook/Meta's Code Llama, is presumed to be tainted code, and must not be committed without prior written approval by core." -- https://www.netbsd.org/developers/commit-guidelines.html
Note the last sentence: "must not be committed without prior written approval by core."
I certainly won't argue against learning NetBSD, but I also wouldn't count it as a viable last refuge.
You can look at https://fedi.tcp80.org/@be0ba/statuses/01KQ2WEK701RGDX7BKBB2RGH3P if you're interested in my reasoning to avoid depending on NetBSD.
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@be0ba with smaller systems, like OpenBSD or NetBSD, I at least can imagine supporting a fork that mirrors security improvements from the upstream, if the need arises. I really wish there was a better alternative, but I am not aware of any. I guess could try MirBSD or plan9 🤔
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@nina_kali_nina BTW, I recommend to do your own investigation and check commits, repositories, and maillists by yourself, when it comes to claims about some #BSD is now SlopBSD E.g. claim that #OpenBSD is slop usually going from misunderstanding that it developed as a single system, not a mix of various software — so when developers incorporate latest tmux fixes (like this: https://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/9c2b8e445a0bdfafdd6148b1760f00aa5429627b) to the OpenBSD source tree, the vibe-coded commit from tmux repo passed by unnoticed.
Also note this: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&r=1&s=llm&q=b&w=1 — looks like the discussion about tmux is happening RN 
I suppose this happens because of minimization of maintainers' necessary work to release new #BSD version not in the next century as described here: https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@TomAoki/114209804382234562
Also note, if you are using small-hack/openslopware repo, what these badges on the tables not reliable as a single source of truth. E.g. #FreeBSD is in the list of slopware because it have permissive AI policy, but if read the evidence (https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src?tab=contributing-ov-file#quality-expectations) we'll see:
> Low quality submissions will be rejected
> Automated accounts or chatbots must not submit pull requests
Also note this issue: https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware/issues/257
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I completely agree with people doing their own research.
@evgandr I specifically called FreeBSD out as being pro-slop because it is. I acknowledge that the current taint is from OpenZFS, not directly from the FreeBSD project but that doesn't change the fact that they're incorporating tainted code instead of completely rejecting it (via fork or any other method necessary) and have a policy of accepting slop. The issue you linked points out that FreeBSD can technically be built without ZFS. Where are the official builds of this; ISOs, disk images, etc.? If the default build isn't free of slop, then it's slopware.
I also specifically called out the OpenBSD's taint was from tmux, which is part of the base. Again, not code written by the OpenBSD contributors, but still part of the base system. OpenBSD also doesn't have a written anti-LLM policy. Hopefully both of those issues will be resolved. Your link to the mailing list archive messages about the tmux issue don't include a SINGLE core maintainer of OpenBSD, let alone Theo himself, and are thus completely without merit.
As for your comments about not having to wait to release new versions of various BSDs "in the next century", I can't imagine what you're talking about. OpenBSD has been on a steady 6 month release cycle for many years. FreeBSD also has a well defined released schedule.
Frankly, your entire post reads like you're attempting to defend the incorporation of slop instead of actually explaining a valid misunderstanding on my part of exactly what is slopware. I'll make this very clear for you: Anything that contains slop in any amount or from any source or uses an LLM for any purpose whatsoever, is slop.
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@be0ba I see this as an extreme way to describe "pro-slop" OSes. There are no allowing slop-commits sentences in the #FreeBSD guidelines, furthermore the low quality commits and commits solely from LLMs are directly prohibited. As I read at near 1-2 month before — the FreeBSD people still discussing the new guidelines, so we'll see something in the future.
Also, I should note that forking #OpenZFS especially for FreeBSD, starting from commit where it wasn't tainted, is not so easy thing as it could be seen. There are necessary to found some maintainers, who know the OpenZFS code and able to maintain the fork, test tons of subsystems and utilities — because one of the biggest features of FreeBSD is ZFS as a first-class filesystem, so everything must work as before.
Also, this is why there are no FreeBSD ISOs without ZFS — the amount of necessary testing, to check that everything works as with common FreeBSD ISOs, are incredible.
E.g. when I wrote about simple bug mu, disallowing it's installation with Emacs with X server GUI — it take at near 1 month (or more) to fixed package land in the repository. BTW, the patch was proposed on the next day after I wrote a bug, and it changes literally the one line in the Makefile. So, for ZFS fork the ETA will be much bigger.
> don't include a SINGLE core maintainer of OpenBSD, let alone Theo himself
Dunno, from mine perspective this is completely normal if someone writes to the mailling list first time or didn't posted at maillist before 🤷♂️
> As for your comments about not having to wait to release new versions of various BSDs "in the next century", I can't
imagine what you're talking about. OpenBSD has been on a steady 6 month release cycle for many years. FreeBSD also
has a well defined released schedule.
These OSes have a good released schedule because of beforementioned compromises — using the upstream code and the default configuration flags to reduce the time to land the new versions of software to the repositories. If maintainers will spend their time also for checking is the new version of some software tainted with slop or not — we'll see the next *BSD release in the next century.
> you're attempting to defend the incorporation of slop
LMAO, Obviously not
> Anything that contains slop in any amount or from any source or uses an LLM for any purpose whatsoever, is slop.
As I wrote before, this is a very extreme way to define slopware, absolutely ignoring the ways how the big systems, like OSes, are built, using the underlying Free Software projects as a building bricks. And ignoring the people with limited amount of time and money, who spending their free time to build something and have a customary way to make things, which they were using in the last few decades.
P.S. So, that's how we have the current state of things: the big commercial software companies are pro-slop and forcing developers to use LLMs. And the non-commercial free software organizations maybe want not to use slop in their codebase, but they don't have enough people and money to achive this for now.
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> I see this as an extreme way to describe "pro-slop" OSes.
No. This is the bare minimum. There are no partial measures to resist fascism. You either resist it to the best of one's ability, or you accept it.
> Also, I should note that forking #OpenZFS especially for FreeBSD, starting from commit where it wasn't tainted, is not so easy thing as it could be seen.
I never said or implied it would be easy. It would be a massive amount of work. It's also literally the only option to meet the bare minimum definition of a project that does not include slop.
>> don't include a SINGLE core maintainer of OpenBSD, let alone Theo himself
> Dunno, from mine perspective this is completely normal if someone writes to the mailling list first time or didn't posted at maillist before 🤷♂️
I'm not devaluing the opinions of the people in that discussion, merely pointing out that they literally have no direct influence over the project's policies or implementations thereof. Until and unless core maintainers make a statement, there is no policy.
> E.g. when I wrote about simple bug mu, disallowing it's installation with Emacs with X server GUI — it take at near 1 month (or more) to fixed package land in the repository. BTW, the patch was proposed on the next day after I wrote a bug, and it changes literally the one line in the Makefile. So, for ZFS fork the ETA will be much bigger.
You're conflating package maintainers with core maintainers for a project. While those two groups often share people, there are generally many more package maintainers that maintain at most a handful of packages and have nothing to do with the base operating system. Waiting a month for a bug fix in a package by someone who may only update packages every few months bears no relevance whatsoever to base OS development.
> As I wrote before, this is a very extreme way to define slopware, absolutely ignoring the ways how the big systems, like OSes, are built, using the underlying Free Software projects as a building bricks.
While this is absolutely true of Linux which has nothing to itself but a kernel, it bears much less relevance to BSD. The vast majority of the code in BSDs is written for and by those operating systems. There are obvious exceptions to this of course; NetBSD has GCC, OpenBSD and FreeBSD have LLVM (another slopware project to contend against), OpenBSD has Perl, tmux, etc. So, yes, a handful of external projects but the majority of the base distribution is produced "in-house".
I'm sorry you can't seem to understand that my position isn't extreme relative to the threat. It's literally the minimal baseline to combat encroaching fascism. The only way to prevent slop is to refuse to allow it. If everyone refuses to use slop, eventually it will die out, but making excuses about how difficult things are doesn't do anything. I hope you can learn to understand that your constant excuses for why we can't fight back are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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Sorry, as a citizen of not the first world country, who was never rich as an usual american teenager and saw/hear about a lot of real shit and will see a lot of shit in future (like death penalty for using VPN to access the free Internet, for example) — I can't read these incantation about "fighting fascism" without a smirk Sounds like wealthy citizens of first world countries developed a new simulacrum to ignore the real problems in the other countries, like governments full of corrupted morons, failure of diplomacy, and constant war against human rights.
Returning to slop, this masks the real problems with slopware — decline in code quality and in programmers' knowledge, replacing it with paid corporative blackbox, which could be restricted to use at any moment.
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@nina_kali_nina Sorry, but this is how things are visible from inside non-first world country by some people, including me — as written in one local proverb: "The well-fed do not understand the hungry" 🤷♂️
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@nina_kali_nina Interesting. I use FreeBSD on servers/headless machines whenever I can precisely because I feel it's much more polished, organized and simple than any Linux distribution I've seen. But it's definitely not my first nor second choices for desktop/laptop.
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@nina_kali_nina I think someone should revive the HURD
I'm unfortunately not skilled enough
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@nina_kali_nina well I'll be a monkey's uncle, there's actually progress from earlier this year
https://itsfoss.com/news/gnu-hurd-progress-report/
Time to try it on a spare SSD ^^
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@nina_kali_nina beyond the AI parts I do think that the BSDs have some interesting advantages, mainly shipping a holistic system rather than a parts tray that’s assembled by the distro team. The bundling of lib c is my particular favorite.
I’d also say that the BSDs have a much closer relationship with correctness, just look into the behavior of truncation with tail -f on bsd vs Linux.
Oxide has a pretty good discussion on why they went with Illumos over Linux.
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@nina_kali_nina hope this link is useful (+ if you weren't aware of it prior) https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware#operating-systems
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@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt switching from Windows 7 (which was close to EoL) to Kubuntu in 2019 was definitely a "oh wait all of this just works and I might even prefer this experience" moment. The only thing I lost is hardware compatibility with the katsukeity capture card in my new2DSxl and my elgato HDMI capture card.
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@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt the elgato device in question doesn't seem to have any linux drivers and didn't magically just work™, so I kinda gave up. I was gonna give it to a friend, but we never figured out shipping abroad and he ended up getting a usb-c one, which is probably easier to use than a PCI-E card anyways. I'm honestly more disappointed I couldn't find software for the 3DS one, because that thing cost me 500€ and there
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@mitsunee that's sad :( I guess you could use Windows in Qemu for this, but that's not very convenient
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I've been running FreeBSD as my primary OS since version 1.1.5 (in the 1990's) and I've been running 386BSD before that. Of course it depends on your needs, but for me it definitely worked fine. Never had Windows or Linux on my primary machine.
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@nina_kali_nina Reasons to do not try FreeBSD?
It should have all at par as Debian as software that you seek, plus Wine and the Linux compatibility layer for run Linux binaries.
As I heard, the hardware issues are alike related to wifi, lans or GPU, but it could be meant just to install the driver post-installation.
OpenBSD and NetBSD are born with different objectives than being a desktop system, the lacking of Wine and some things should not surprise.
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@raster they welcome AI contributions
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@nina_kali_nina Perhaps you could evaluate two lesser know picks non-unix, Haiku and Aros.
I don't remember about have wine thought. I think you need to setup a VM for those times you need Windows binaries.
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@raster they're lovely, but I wouldn't be comfortable running them as my main OS for stability and security reasons, unfortunately
@nina_kali_nina FreeBSD has not taken a real stance about AI-generated code yet, for being exact, except they tend to avoid for license concern. I cannot disagree with the doubts about this stance, anyway.
Some FOSS projects have already banned AI contributions for pratical reasons, first of all they went overwhelmed that they cannot reviewn the code, at all. I think in short future in general these submission are going to get excluded for these reasons than for ideological/moral matters.
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@raster except they did allow AI contributions just fine, they have Claude authored commits.Their policy only prohibits fully automated and low quality PRs.
How well does OpenBSD fare with the DOSBox forks that can emulate Windows 95 (i.e Dosbox-X)?
Have considered using Dosbox-X on Linux because I don't like Wine, but the official Debian and Flathub builds kept crashing whenever I resized the window.
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@moses_izumi I have Win98 running real fast (Pentium 200 MHz 100%) in dosbox-x on both NetBSD and OpenBSD. I haven't tried to use it for music production just yet, but that'd be my fallback if I fail to port PowerTab or TuxGuitar.
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@nina_kali_nina GNU IMP. You've just fixed a naming problem for me. Thank you.
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@grant_h I wasn't the first one who suggested to use this name. I think it's not a bad rebranding
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@nina_kali_nina It is still easy to pronounce (to my English tongue), needs no massive refactoring of code, keeps the recognition. Ticks a lot of boxes.
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@nina_kali_nina its fun to see these "giant projects" are just one person doing this in their free time. Those people rock. :)
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@nina_kali_nina I've done this my whole life out of habit, being raised in a non-Windows household (OS/2, BeOS, etc). Always hitting a hardware compatibility list was critical for survival 'back in the day'. I'm happy for having this skill and reflex for anything tech I've ever purchased.
It wasn't just laptops in our household but also things like dvd players. We'd have tape on the top of certain ones that listed the 'regions' of the discs they'd play.
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Back in the day, NetBSD did run on close to everything. And then some.
I'm curious: What problems did you run into? And what window manager are you running there?
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@nina_kali_nina that image sparked power tab nostalgia. I need to check if Peter Lindstrom transcriptions are still available.
Also, the report of all the lessons learned is super interesting. Thanks!
is there a job board that focuses only on good companies? places with a real sense of purpose, healthy work-life balance, thoughtful pace, and meaningful work. no grind, no noise, no constant rush
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so i have been learning #sam and #acme properly and oh my god. acme is the best editor i have ever used. i love the fact that it really is an os interface in its own right. i have been completely underutilising it. i now have a setup on my second desktop at all times.
sam just seems like ed on steroids with a lot of the acme benefits of the mouse interface.
i am using acme for actual work or writing and i use sam for quick edits or config files.
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yeah, plan9port (plan9 from user space) runs well on macos when you install in into /usr/local
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i highly recommend it,
https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/man/man1/install.html
thats the link to the guide i installed it with.
i cloned it in /usr/bin as a folder called plan9 and then did ./INSTALL and pasted the resulting commands it ended it with into my .zshrc and .zprofile :)
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@ravenbrook never really touched plan9, but how would you compare acme to vim or kakoune if you have used those? like a few of the selling points of acme.
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@alanxoc3 i have never used kakoune but i have used vim and vi quite a lot.
in acme you can type anywhere, anywhere there is text you can type and edit text that is there, adding extra commands you use a lot to the top blue bars.
you can execute commands from other programs (i compile LaTeX documents a lot within acme while editing them) in acme. in many ways its more of an ide.
compared to vim, its simpler to start with, like you can just type, and acme is far more mouse oriented.
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like in acme there is mouse chording, which is entirely not present in vim. and it is global in many plan9 apps.
i use vi when i can because i find that i barely use many of vims actual functions, so i find acme has fewer redundant features to me. it supports the sam command language but i am yet to play with that.
i think this video does a good job of summing it far better than i could. its also by the main dev behind plan9port
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@ravenbrook Thanks for sharing the video.
Like Kakoune, it looks like it has much nicer shell/binary execution support than vim.
Unlike Kakoune it has windowing and encourages mouse support. And I guess Kakoune has different edit modes.
There are probably way more differences than that though. It does look fun! Seems like the text editor people should get started with rather than notepad.exe.
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It seems to be crashing quite a lot when doing things like resetting my password, or attempting to login from a third-party client.
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Are there any, ANY Data Analytics, Visualization, Storytelling jobs out there that DO NOT require the use of AI just for the sake of AI?
I truly feel like I need to leave my current job as it has become unsustainable for me for multiple reasons, but whatever job ad I see out there also says AI this, AI that, and *for no good reason.* Just so they can say we "do AI."
... does this exist? am I looking for a unicorn?
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Follow-up to this, I am noticing that what I gravitate towards more and more is a job that aligns with my values & morals. I want to do at least *some* good in the world - it should be a net positive.
ALSO incredibly hard to find. Nonprofits, charities, green tech, urbanism, anything?
Preferably remote in #Canada, but would consider hybrid in #yeg.
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@robyn bruh, no. We're implementing some miraculous realtime analytics. Is you can dream it, it's being rendered on a webpage by the end of the week
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@robyn honestly I think it’s the same game as with anything. Say “yes of course I’ll be in the office two days a week and use AI for everything including my trips to the bathroom” to the HR person and then do your job effectively once you’re hired and nobody’s gonna check shit. At least that’s how most places seem to work to me
My guess, and this is just a guess, is that it's a unicorn now. Today. In this era. But give it a year, probably less, and the whole "AI" con will implode. My understanding is that Cory Doctorow is right--AI is the asbestos we are shoveling into our walls and we're going to have to spend generations excising it. My advice--go raise sheep off the grid for a year, then come back as an AI slop code doctor.
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@robyn Note: this is an under-educated guess and opinion.
I would say still apply to job listings with those. IF otherwise qualified. Speak up the qualifications you -do- have. And state you have ethical issues with LLMs. **As polite as one usually is while applying for a job.** But be prepared to not get the job.
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@robyn @zkamvar We do data analytics for the charity sector in Australia and don’t use gen AI. We build ML models where it makes sense, but otherwise we use human intelligence, understanding and experience to help our clients do more with their data furthering their causes. So not a unicorn, but we’re profitable enough not to need to buy into the hype and our clients trust us enough not to ask for that crap.
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TIL that macOS ships with `mg`, a sort-of Emacs clone
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@never_released i think it came from openbsd
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@cb @never_released It's an editor from OpenBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't support UTF-8 https://man.openbsd.org/mg#CAVEATS
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@hi @never_released ctrl-z, pkill -9 mg. Just like vi 
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Maybe in particular:
1. Lots of websites will geoblock instead of implementing this, because it’s too expensive. So even adults might lose access.
2. Adults might also lose their anonymity
3. Constant breaches mean your child’s information might leak
4. Evading bans might lead children to bad places RE: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ybtyn5l4nljys46ijqtpldaw/post/3m7fvzrsitk2b
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Article also by Taylor Lorenz: «[OSA] has led to mass censorship, with the de facto removal of vast swaths of content from the web. Tech companies find it easier and cheaper to simply remove mass amounts of information than have something slip through and be deemed non-compliant.»
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Who is verifying if you should have access to this particular content? «Age verification is a massive gift to big tech. Persona, the leading third-party identity verification platform, recently announced a $2bn valuation after its latest funding round co-led by Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund.»
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Many people mistakenly believe that only children will have to verify their identities online under such laws, but that is false. In order to determine who is a child, all users, no matter who they are, will be forced to turn over vast troves of valuable biometric data and for ever link their offline identity to their online behaviour. The data collected could then be weaponised by the government or bad actors, and put internet users at significantly higher risk of crimes such as identity theft and fraud.
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Additionally, only the largest and most powerful tech platforms have the resources to enact age verification at scale, meaning smaller indie social networks and non-profit driven platforms for services such as patient support groups or online communities for addicts and disabled people could be forced to shut down. The loss of these communities, which are a lifeline for people struggling, will be devastating. "Alcoholics Anonymous has gone," one Reddit user posted after the UK's age verification laws went into effect. "As a non tech savvy recovering alcoholic this is a bummer as I used to get some hope and support from the subs."
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«Apple Inc. called the legislation a "serious threat" to end-to-end encryption, warning that it could force the company to weaken security features designed to protect users from surveillance.»
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I personally think parents are reaching for legislation and tech solutions for something they should be talking with their kids, their schools and other parents about. I also think legislation could help in forcing platforms to follow up on reports, appeals and complaints.
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Personally I don’t think most kids are mature enough to understand the privacy implications of social media, and in my experience it’s the parents who have made these accounts for them. And the parents who don’t want to say no. And who posts pictures of kids? Their families. We need to parent.
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We can’t legislate ourselves out of parenting. And attempting to do so could create a world where our kids can never seek information without it being tied directly back to their real identity. And this information could potentially follow them for the rest of their lives.
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Look at the US right now. It isn’t hard to see how this information could be weaponized because it already is. And given more systemic gathering of information it could be so much worse. You might trust your current government, but what about a future government?
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You don’t know what a future government will look like.
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As for evasion, do parents think that anyone over the age of 10 hasn’t heard of VPNs? «half of the top ten free apps in Apple's app download charts in the UK appeared to be for VPN services. And one app maker told the BBC it had seen an 1,800% spike in downloads.»
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Then I guess the solution is to ban VPNs?
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Do we want kids on Tor? «These restrictions are driving users underground. [T]he privacy-centric Tor browser, which reached its highest level ever this year – nearly 20 million daily users, six times its long-term average.»
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Oh no I played with a meme generator
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Parents, choosing button meme
Send kids to dark web
Talk to children
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«destroy everyone’s privacy”
Looking on: “say no to kids Snapchat”
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No: Parent children
Yes: Make anonymity illegal
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Two thousand year old #opsec advice:
Hoping that others will not hear is not the same as not speaking; hoping others won’t find out is not the same as not doing.
(from the Book of Han, a history book authored by a brother-sister pair)
#classicalchinese #fountainpen
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Handwritten Classical Chinese and translation: Hoping that others will not hear is not the same as not speaking; hoping others won’t find out is not the same as not doing.
Woot, all my static sites have been moved to my new @OpenBSDAms server! I've deleted my Hetzner server and updated the colophon on my homepage: https://gosha.net/colophon 
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@gosha \o/
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@gosha do mind if we add this toot to our website?
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@OpenBSDAms Not at all, please do!
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@gosha it’s up at https://openbsd.amsterdam/words.html
Love the Moomin!
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The #OpenBSD Foundation's 2026 Fundraising Campaign pages are now live. The foundation raised $513,251 total in 2025. ☺️
I never gave y'all an update, but I got #getfedihired and it's pretty great. Thanks!
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@nina_kali_nina It seems plausible that literally anyone who saw your projects in your Fedi feed would hire you immediately, that tracks. Congratulations.
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@nina_kali_nina yay, congratulations! I hope the new job gives you peace of mind to comfortably hack even MOAR ^^
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@nina_kali_nina Congrats 🎉 What’s the job?
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@nina_kali_nina great news! I got the impression you were less than enamoured of the direction of things where you were before.
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exciting: first 10 production mainboards for MNT Reform Next came in!
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@hi depends what kind of thing you're editing but for text, markor is pretty good
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@hi markor can do that
My problem with it was, it had way more features than I needed. You might have a similar issue, but it is a very good plaintext editor so probably worth trying
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@hi I'm using simpletexteditor, which has treated me well, but I'm on the lookout for something with a "recent files" browser, so i don't need to keep digging through my folders 😅
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@hi termux + vim ?
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iA Presenter now lets you write charts. To make it easy, we had to completely redesign the UI for markdown tables: https://ia.net/topics/charts-and-tables
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@ia Can we get this in iA Writer too, please!
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@ia Will this come to iAWriter too? Would be really useful, including text-based tables.
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@robertbigg It's built to be shared with Writer but we'll do Liquid Glass and Outline first. (LG is coming soon). No ETA on tables. It's good to give it some time with a wider audience, too, before we integrate it with Writer.
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@hi OpenSCAD is the 3D cad software that I use on OpenBSD and in current it has recently been updated
A toss-up.
For simple stuff, I like TinkerCAD which is browser-based and freely available, but not freely-licensed. Good for throwing together a quick item to 3d-print. But also has a fairly low ceiling, and I find myself hitting limits pretty quickly there.
For stuff more complex than TinkerCAD can handle, I spent a while learning Blender. It's open-licensed (GPL) and has **far more** power than I'll ever learn/use. But it did the job.
Alas, it now uses Vulkan which doesn't work on some of my hardware where I'd be more prone to using it, so I haven't used it as much in the last couple years.
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@hi i have no real-world experience to lend credence to my opinions, but programming shapes in OpenSCAD was very fun. so satisfying to refactor a physical object, and to make everything line up perfectly etc.
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#MastoAdmin on #OpenBSD feel:
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🇩🇪@h3artbl33d how tf did you get a different mediaplayer to show up on the mastodon app 💀💀💀💀
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I added the MP3 as an attachment. AFAIK this is how Mastodon displays the attachment; to the best of my knowledge it isn't a glitch-exclusive feature.
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@h3artbl33d I've never seen a audio file here lol. Also I thought it was a video due to bad ui design.
@h3artbl33d totally unrelated question… why kind of "object" is this? The visual aspect while playing looks like an app content but the post rendering looks like an attached media file. 🤔
Hear me out: a stack based task management app. Shows you a stack of tasks you need to do, with one on top visible and the rest hidden under it. FIFO I guess? But you should be able to manually adjust where you put your new task when you add it, this can't be too strict.
Lists give me anxiety. Just show me what I need to do next, and that's it.
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$ head -1 todo.mdgives me next todo item to work on.
to add items i just edit file in vi:
$ vi todo.mdbonus: i keep todo items blocked by other people in another file:
$ vi wait.mdand completed items moved to done.md stamped with date
$ echo "$(date +%Y%m%d) $(head -1 todo.md)" >> done.mdbonus 2: send a copy to my phone
$ sed -i .bak '1d' todo.md
$ rsync -litr ~/src/todo/ phone:storage/shared/src/todo/
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@hi I love it, even though this feels like it has hints of org-mode in it!
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a few flat plaintext files work really well and helps me stay focused. i haven't tried emacs, but i guess this is a pretty common pattern :)
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@hi org-mode is powerful and awesome, but simple it is not. I’ll try something like your system for a bit, thank you for sharing!
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@ratfactor your website is super cool! I really enjoyed the post about folding a fitted sheet, this has been a bane of my existence forever. I also discovered @OpenBSDAms through your website, makes me want to migrate from hetzner 
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@gosha @ratfactor we are here if you want to give it a try.
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@OpenBSDAms Just applied for a VM :) I've been running openbsd on hetzner for a few years now and I'm fairly satisfied with it (only problem I had was when I tried to self-host a RSS reader: some websites blocked traffic from hetzner IPs and so I couldn't fetch feeds), but I'd be very happy to use hosting that supports the openbsd foundation 🤘
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@gosha @OpenBSDAms That rocks! Thank you! And yeah, totally give Openbsd.Amsterdam a shot. I was running a VM over there as a test for quite a while before I did my full switch-over. Plus: the sooner you join, the sooner you're donating to OpenBSD. 😁
Edit: I see that you did. Woohoo! 🥳
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@ratfactor @OpenBSDAms Woohoo! I already managed to host my rss reader without any issues, going to be migrating all of my websites shortly :)
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There are many ways to illustrate that things belong together or are related to each other. They are commonly known as “gestalt principles” (top)
What happens when you ignore them all? You get a UI that is absolutely undecipherable (bottom). Just one hot mess of everything with no indication what applies to what.
Sometimes minimalism can be too much.
#Gestalt #Minimalism #Sapling #Meta
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@grumpy_website This is too subtle for me. What are the things that belong together or are related to one another?
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We've had this long furling tape from Japan for the longest time, for years!! thinking it was in inches. Causing us lots of mistakes and fuck ups, the whole time we thought it was our own miscalculations, that we must have messed up in converting it to metric or something.
1) The unit on the tape is in tenth of a foot.
2) That's almost exactly 3cm, BUT NOT QUITE.
3) The ruler says FEET, but then breaks it down in 3cm segments each divided in tenth of a tenth of foot.
WHAT THE FUCK RULER
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@neauoire Perfectly cromulent semi-SI units. Decifeet, centifeet, kilofeet 
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@alderwick here I was hating on the fact that the word "hexadecimal" mixes up latin and greek roots.
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@tezoatlipoca @ori @neauoire milli-inches is already a thing, called a "thou" and used in engineering and machining.
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@neauoire shaku-sun-bu approximator based on international feet, I guess? unless zhat's slightly off and actually 0.9942x ze measurement on your tri-blade ruler, which'd mean it's literally just shaku-sun-bu
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@yaodema it's a german triblade, so I think that's probably actual feet. If not, our measurements have been fucked on meta levels.
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@neauoire oh I mean your tri-blade being *actual feet* and zhis weird ruler being off by a tiny amount you can't see wizhout calipers, here. shaku are defined as 30.3cm to a foot's 30.48, after all
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@yaodema I'm just here questioning everything now, I don't have enough rulers on the boat to be doubly sure of anything.
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@cerement @yaodema @neauoire I was about to answer this myself, but decided to check first.
Perfect answer.
So I'll add that you can have similar mishaps in China with chi-cun-fen measures (often still used in tailoring). Indeed the Imperial inch is referred to in China as literally "English cun".
The shaku-sun-bu measurements were almost certainly derived from older chi-cun-fen measurements, but have diverged over time. The Mainland chi today is 33+1/3cm, IIRC, to the shaku's 30.3cm.
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@neauoire i got more cursed units where that came from
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We kindda wanna pass it on, but we'll have to put a label on it something, like: CURSED UNITS, experimental uses only.
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@neauoire Apparently it is not a rare thing in oilfield work? I recently watched this https://youtu.be/sdWEGzWFcCc?t=276 which has lots of other fascinating horrible units, but that's the bit that talks about "decimal feet".
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@khm @blakecoverett @neauoire yeah I was about to say it's a decimal feet tape measure for like, surveying purposes.
That's pretty hilarious though.
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@neauoire isn’t that just a standard drafting scale, at 1:10000 feet? We used the metric ones in school, but they were standard scales.
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So, wait—when it hits 10, does it go back to 0 and count up in tenths of a foot until it gets to 2 feet? As in there are no 11 and 12 marked on there?
Wow, just found one that does both:
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In forestry management we use imperial tape measures divided into 10 instead of 12. Specifically when measuring the diameter of a tree trunk. It means the result is a straight decimal, ie. 3.4' or 3.9' instead of 3'-4 4/5" or 3'-10 13/16".
I mean, yeah, metric would be easier all around, but at least this method does make tabulating and synthesising results in spreadsheets easier for Americans when it's in tenths of a foot vs twelfths.
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And you should see the back side of that same measuring tape - it measures "inches", but each "inch" is in actually 3.14159 (pi π) inches long, so that you don't have to do math in the field to convert circumference to diameter!
Super handy for those who know. Flabbergasting to those who don't.
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@neauoire It's engineering units. I have an old folding rule, inches on one side and tenths on the other. It can be confusing. Anyhow, if you were working off plans with measurements in tenths, it is easier to use this kind of tape than converting numbers on site.
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@neauoire this is very funny, but also what very specific reason is there for this to exist?
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@neauoire weird units rulers like that were also a cause of the Vasa disaster: https://theworld.org/stories/2013/08/15/new-clues-emerge-centuries-old-swedish-shipwreck
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@neauoire holy _shit_ that's the most cursed thing I can imagine
"Make sure your measuring tapes are calibrated!" 😂
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@neauoire
Next up imperial meters where each meter is exactly 40 inches.
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@neauoire @niels Ever since learning about the short ton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_ton, 907kg, in the US apparently often called just the ton) I wish we defined a “long yard”, equal to 1m, and call it just “yard” in Europe for convenience.
Possibly stumbled onto the high-level language of my dreams.
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@neauoire which one? is it a take on https://github.com/elis/ji ?
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Was going to say, it looks like an infix version of Forth.
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@RealGene this is postfix, but there's no stack.
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So forward slash is not a divide operator?
which in postfix would be:
y2^y '[res^x] y2 /
Also, the table is missing 1 x 1 😀
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@RealGene it is, but cells in memory are fractions, instead of unsigned integers. The only possible operation is the multiplication of fractions.
So, if a program has these 3 cells: 2^2 3/2 5/6
[] 2^2 3/2 5/[2 3]
[2^2] 3/2 5/[2 3]
[2 3] 5/[2 3]
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Reached in 4 steps.
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@neauoire stole some ideas from this to print Pascal's Triangle
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@hi gcam is absolutely worth it, especially on a Pixel phone, you basically get the original camera features back without the faff.
(I'm on a Fairphone 6 now which has its own streamlined camera app so I don't need Gcam anywhere but on my Pixel 5 it was one of the flagship things that made me feel like I'm not trading off much for running a "degoogled" OS in terms of being able to use the hardware I have paid for...)
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i kind of like the simplicity of the default camera app on #grapheneos and so i decided to stick to default one for awhile
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I'm considering bumping the macOS requirements for my binary package repository available at https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/install-on-macos/ again.
There's already a bunch of packages missing because they have newer C++ requirements than Xcode 15.4 supports.
What OS are folks running?
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OpenBSD -current is now "7.9-current" https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20260420053238 #openbsd #development #current #newrelease #security #freesoftware #libresoftware
are you happy with your job? #poll
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@hi just a little reminder that the original Doom only required ~2MB of disk-space while Doom II took ~15MB of disk-space.
For the additional disk-space used, are those mobile apps really providing you that much more value than just playing Doom or Doom II? 😆
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I love how the average "just a simple flashlight" app on Google Play is like 200 MiB and the average "This contains the entire knowledge of the universe, requires Android 4.0 or newer" app on F-Droid is like 20 KiB. XD
Folks were telling me about GrayJay (client for YT and others), but it's like hecka hundred megabytes, and I'm thinking, "WHY!??"
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A virtual Android environment itself would be quite the resource hog, methink.
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Wonder if the #postmarketos people have any guides for FOSS Android developers who wish to migrate to Linux, now that Google's going full policestate with their OS.
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Reminds me, I've got a Pixel 3a collecting dust puppies in my home office closet, I really need to flash it with #pmOS. ;)
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The 3a is the best-supported phone for pmOS outside of the PinePhone (original, not Pro), if memory serves me.
This goes back to my one infamous comment, "I'd rather deal with a heat-belching x86 phone with two minutes of battery life than an ARM-based laptop." 😂
Hardware support on that architecture seems to be a real bugbear. I celebrate the accomplishments of teams like the Asahi guys, yet mourn that their heroic work essentially obfuscates the fact that "Apple Silicon" computers are absolute bricks without herculean reverse-engineering efforts.
This is a sad state of affairs.
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
I haven't had great luck with my 3a with pmOS. I haven't even been able to get it to establish a cellular connection using physical sims from multiple providers. Combine that with a (now) badly declining battery and I've never even come close to being able to test it as a daily driver. (This is over multiple attempts through the last couple of years.)
I hope this doesn't read like a criticism of the pmOS folks; they've done incredible work and I appreciate the hell out of it (although I wish they'd have stuck with OpenRC instead of SloppyD).
Hopefully y'alls will have better luck than I, but I figured I should at least share my experience to date. Despite the ongoing issues, it has certainly gotten better every time I've pushed a new image to the phone.
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@be0ba @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
Ah, that's a bummer to hear. :/
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
I just built a new image using plasma-mobile and packages from edge; I'll take it with me tomorrow and see if I can get the modem working. I don't have cell service at home.
Like I said, things have always seemed to be better every time I try. Not necessarily huge leaps, but improvements all the time.
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
Okay, so it boots but plasma-mobile is still somewhat unhappy at times. When you switch the active SIM slot (for me, the eSIM is the default and I must run `sudo mmcli -m 0 --set-primary-sim-slot 1'), the settings app invariably crashes. The Crash Reporter also tends to crash regardless of whether or not anything else has crashed.
5GHz WiFi is still a no-go; for some reason it can't manage the encryption, but 2.4GHz works perfectly fine.
Overall interactivity is... okay. Sluggish in comparison to literally any Android phone I've ever used. For comparison, I fired up my Motorola Droid RAZR (circa 2011) with Android 4 and there is literally no comparison in terms of responsiveness. (Also, holy crap, this old Android 4 feels so incredibly dated...) The ancient Motorola just screams through UI animations and apps opening where the Pixel 3a just... limps along. There are other options for the UI, but plasma-mobile has well proven to be the least glitchy of them for me.
I got Firefox installed which seems to come from Flathub (clocking in at 271.2MiB). It works well enough, Reddit loaded, videos played with working sound. Waterfox doesn't seem to be available, but I've just found that Librewolf (393.7MiB [no idea why it's so much bigger; pre-installed extensions?]) is so I'll test it since it's not #slopware. This too works perfectly on the perfunctory Reddit test.
The last time I tested this, the screen would get stuck in orientation, and vertical was always upside down. This hasn't happened at all yet, which is a wonderful improvement in my book.
The modem is picking up at least some network signals with an active sim selected, which is also great news. Only tomorrow will tell if it can actually manage to connect to the network.
If I manage to get it to connect to the cellular network tomorrow I'll report back. If I don't, you can assume that it didn't. Or that I forgot to post about it, or forgot to test and am too embarrassed to mention it.
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@be0ba @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
Man, I gotta say, that does not sound like fun. :/
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
It's not really the phone's fault though, or even postmarketOS. It was also really unfair for me to compare responsiveness to Android even though it's the direct competitor. Android is stupid optimised to run on these things, and older Android apps had to run on really limited hardware and make the most of it.
What's running on this now 7 year old hardware is an entirely modern software stack that struggles on modern hardware. Firefox/Librewolf actually responded a LOT better than I expected. They were actually more responsive than the WM. KDE Plasma isn't exactly lightweight, even as a mobile WM. The limited amount of RAM in a Pixel 3a is also limiting in terms of modern stuff, having only 4GB. I think I'll try using swap-in-zram along with some sysctl tuning to help alleviate that. Perhaps bpftune and adaptivemm can help make a difference as well.
I think using a lighter UI would help a lot, but all of those options seem to say to use a stylus because they're not really mobile UIs and I don't have a stylus. I also think carrying a stylus around to use a phone not designed for one would make an even worse experience.
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@be0ba @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
Have you tried #SXMo?
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
I have not, but I will just as soon as the new image finishes building and I push it to the phone. I wish I had something else ARM based around here to build it ..... wait. My 7 Pro has that new-ish Linux-in-a-VM terminal.
Now I have to try to build a postmarketOS image on a VM on a phone....
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
Okay, this is will take some getting used to, but I think I like it. It is also snappy AF. This feels so much nicer to work with; no lag at all.
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
One thing I note is that using sxmo-de-sway on pmOS doesn't seem to ask for a user pin/password on startup. You just go straight to the desktop which is not necessarily amazing. It's still cool though. Trying to figure out how to set up the APN for the cellular connection now. Also, how to tell networkmanager about the cellular connection...
EDIT: Apparently the autologin is an intended feature, according to the sxmo documentation. I'll try to figure out how to turn that off as well.
EDIT EDIT: No, you can't turn that off. The recommended action is to enable full disk encryption and use that for access control which is exactly not how that is supposed to work. So, SXMO explicitly does not support any kind of access control at any point in the usage experience which is.... not great.
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
ModemManager is not happy with swapping SIM slots now. FML. I can get a nice, super responsive UI or I can get a possibility of connecting to a cellular network. Accursed thing.
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@rl_dane @nowster @moses_izumi @hi
I'm also definitely running into https://gitlab.com/sdm670-mainline/linux/-/issues/6 which is a bug where the touchscreen stops responding. I can ssh in and kill sway and restart tinydm and everything will come back up but that doesn't exactly help in the real world... Interesting that I wasn't having any issues with that under plasma.
overall sense of well-being: clean air and water, enough food, stable housing, health, relationships, and personal freedom...
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@hi voted "long term" but only because of the many people I'm lucky to have in my life that know i can turn to.
No illusions, there were very many points in the last 20 years where, if not for family and friends, I'd certainly be homeless, and quite possibly dead.